Re: OT: Garbage Data Used to Support Climate Change Hoax

I don't think so: I think she is a vulnerable person who has been cruelly exploited by unscrupulous campainers to further their own misguided agenda.

That will create a huge methane problem in 100 years time, as the trees die and decompose.

It's worse than that. He claims to have spent a lot of time and money on getting of peer-reviewed scientific papers from the 1890's, which report high - if erratic - CO2 measurements taken in laboratories heated by coal fires in cities heated by coal fires, lit by burning coal gas, and housing small, but horribly inefficient coal-fired electricity generators

He goes on to rejects the much better and faster and more recent measurements made by physical methods. Charles Keeling used automated infra-red absorbtion spectroscopy back in 1958 and could make enough reliable measurements fast enough to realise that he had to put his CO2 observatory at the top of Manua Loa on Hawaii to get stable and reproducible results.

According to Cursitor Doom, Charles Keeling was already part of a world wide conspiracy to foist anthropogenic global warming on the world.

If you happen to share Cursitor Doom's addiction to utterly preposterous conspiracy theories,you might even take him seriously.

John Larkin doesn't want to learn the truth about anthropogenic global because it would put him at odds with his friends.He skipped enough of his chemistry lectures that he probably couldn't manage it if he tried.

John Larkin passes as an electronic engineer on that basis.

Not that he can give a valid example. He likes to talk about continental drift, but everybody came over as soon as we could actually measure it.

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Or at least you keep telling us that you are.

John Larkin claims not to feel fear. He probably doesn't feel shame either.

Easy. Either plant trees that are long-lived or make use of the timber in some way before it deteriorates. Personally I'd burn it in my wood-burning stove banked-up with peat to create as much smoke as possible. :-)

Sorry, Bill, I never said any such thing. And I've never even heard of any Charles Keeling.

The obvious fix to the CO2 cobblers is to plant more trees. There's no reason why that shouldn't placate the mentally ill like Fred Bloggs who are convinced we're all gonna die imminently. But TPTB won't do that as there's no money in it. They want to squeeze everyone for higher taxes on the pretext that will lower CO2 levels (it won't). God help us all if Trump gets robbed again in November. He's the only one with any sense.

I think "sheep" covers it more concisely.

No, he got the idea that the atmospheric CO2 level was as high as it is now entirely from just one book and an antique edition of britannica which got it wrong and has since been updated in later editions.

He even stupidly ran the line that the amended britannica entry was forced on britannica by the climate change brigade and that only antique books have any value, not the internet.

And that was what forced britannica to fix their erroneous entry

I haven't noticed anyone that stupid.

They starved themselves even more enthusiasically during ice ages, when the atmospheric CO2 level went down to 180ppm, without killing them off.

Low CO2 levels don't seem to be a problem. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

John Larkin and Cursitor Doom are our resident sheep, and they do bleat a lot. Their opinions have been manipulated by the climate change denial propaganda machine, which is a real and well-documented conspiracy, but they seem to think that they have come up with their silly ideas entirely on their own, which is amusing.

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When you resort to abusing individuals who have expressed their opinions and presented the facts which support them, it suggests that you cannot dispute those facts and you have no facts which support your own opinion.

The human species needs the occasional anti-social explorer inventor lunatic to make progress. I volunteer.

He doesn't have ideas and doesn't design electronics. He's stuck in a loop of repeating lame insults to everyone. What a life!

I always wonder what these constant flamers are like in real life. If they behave this way at the local pub, they'd crawl away bleeding.

My theories design electronics that works, and I'm always helpful to anyone, amateur or pro, who wants to talk electronics.

This ain't a dancing class.

Absolute rubbish, Bill. You obviously have me confused with someone else. I put together a very short synopsis of the *documentary* evidence from print sources for those who can't be bothered to read the whole thing which I also made available online if anyone wants to see it.

Here's the short-cut evidence which clearly shows CO2 has remained at broadly the same level over the past 160 years - in clear contradiction to everything we are told today. It's only a 10 minute read:

You're citing online sources which aren't worth jack. That's why I bought a ton of books and did my research the hard way - the *only* reliable way. Contrary to your hockey stick graph, my reference books show no noteworthy variation over the course of the 20th century, and unequivocally no sustained departure from 380ppm over the past 160 years. No matter how much CO2 was belched out during the most polluting century in human existence, the surplus was automatically re-absorbed by the plants and oceans, which keep these levels in perfect balance. Consequently, there is NO need for all this climate alarmism. It *has* to be a con job; a scam. The problem is 99.9% of people simply don't have the time to look into it properly as I did and just rely on the BS they get from the TV and radio. It's a *huge* unreported scandal.

I think it's worse than that. Almost everyone has been conditioned to accept authority unconditionally. They find it difficult to even understand the concept of questioning what they are told on the TV.

The climate change thing has been around for half a century at least (though originally it was an ice age coming) so most people were originally fed it at school.

But look at the government/WHO COVID narrative, which only appeared in

2020. At first, everyone believed what they were told, including me, but after a few months it was clear that it was orders of magnitude less dangerous than we had been told. Even today, intelligent people still get 'vaccinated', though far fewer now than at first. There are still colleges in the USA requiring 'full' vaccination to attend, even though it is widely accepted that the vaccines, at the very least, neither prevent infection nor transmission.

Well, I was vaccinated and stil caught Covid, But - it was no more than a bad cold. I only needed a day in bed to sleep it off. I hate to think what the effect would have been without vaccination. I knew at least one person

- my own age - who died of it!