Re: Oh my Gawd! Carly!

Will you please explain how someone else can put feelings, opinions, data, facts, knowledge, understanding into my mind without my active cooperation / work? The provision opportunity is not to be confused with putting forth the effort to make something of it.

No they have not. It has appeared on and off over millennia. You do not like the fact that is true so you deny it.

Yes there is. it is evidenced in the longtime decline of various test scores.

False again, see second above.

Actually it is the industrious ones today that made uncomfortable.

You were doing the inverse in your claims earlier. Not you admit that the environment was created by others so I don't have any further disagreement with you in this area.

Please state the period that lasted more than 24 hours when the older folks didn't complain about the yonger ones. You have made a claim of something being a "fact" that I firmly believe to be false. This is not denial it is disputing your claim.

Simply because an opportunity exists, normally does not mean that any success can occur without considerable input from self. Think it through.

I do not think so. You are / have been disparaging all the work i did to get where i am. If i had not busted my hump i could not have gotten where i am today. Others seem to think it should "just come to them". It will not.

I have.

You were denying my point so I was pounding on you. Now that you have accepted the point, that others created the environment in which you had the success, I won't continue to pound but do remember that there are others in the world that could not have gotten the result you did because they were unlucky in where they were born.

There are many more who are very willing to work for what they will get.

Not really. I was pointing out its irrelevance to the actual disagreement. Besides, what point do you think you had?

I have been watching for many years at what i might consider hiring. I will stand by my experience.

The point was that you were making claims based on your experience in our current economy and trying to claim that they applied to a very different situation.

And I by mine and the history. I note that you have not stated a date for when the older generation did not think the yonger one was lazy.