Re: Liability & responsibility of electrician?

Paper tape is absolutely binary. Unless you live in Florida, then, it is tri-state, depending on the 'chad factor'.

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Mycelium
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Depennds on how you define (or look at) things. This one can be argued either way (as can hexadecimal/binary).

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...and MN is chadless.

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krw

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The individual holes are binary, hence the term 'absolute'.

Of course a string of holes can be referred to as a 'word' or 'byte' or whatever one wishes, and the entire area can be sectored off in some manner or not, but the most base element is on or off, hole or no hole.

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Mycelium

Definitely controlable if you are laser etching 3-D.

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clare

factor'.

It is a character device, so there is no "'absolute'".

The reader is a character device.

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krw

factor'.

Optically reading a printed character results (hopefully by design) in a specific language (dissemination). Optically reading holes in a card, tape, sheet, etc. of paper are BINARY decisions, even though reading a block of such holes disseminates a "character" or "word" of the "language" being used.

The questions: 'Is there a hole?', and 'At what location?' can disseminate a hole that would be binary into a hole that represents a choice or entire character because geographical position is also weighed in and becomes part of the 'language' of the coding system.

It is still a mere on or off, hole or no hole decision engine at the reader/punch level. That's binary.

So if the hole's position mattered, the dissemination would be two fold. Location, and hole/no_hole binary switch. The two can result in a "character", but the mechanics and the status of the hole or no_hole question are resolved in a binary manner.

If the hole needs to be in with a group of other holes to determine a "word" or "character", that is a datagram, read by rows and columns, but the actual holes are still read binary when the read engine scans that row/column group to compile the character or word.

Reading a UID tag that is very small and printed white on clear is a pain in the rear. One has to place a printed sample on a black surface to get the verifier scanners to read it. It amounts to the same thing. A series of contrast difference blocks as opposed to holes. Read by a laser as opposed to an optocoupler or such.

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Mycelium

factor'.

Who said anything about optics? By your definition "octal", "hexadecimal", and "ASCII", don't exist.

Is there a character available? Stuff character.

But there are eight (or five). That's ASCII, or something.

The decision isn't hole/no hole. It's character/no character. You can't take them one bit at a time.

Nope. They're read in parallel. They may be shifted/scanned after, but they most certainly are read as a character.

Why can't you stay on topic?

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krw

It is the same thing. Have you ever even seen a UID?

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ChairmanOfTheBored

Not at all. As far as optical goes, how do you think the tape is read? The holes are read by the reader using a visual means. That means that each hole is a binary decision. It doesn't matter that a series of holes were organized into a character or word. by the system doing the reading. I was talking about individual holes.

So if a single hole represents an entire character, I'd be surprised.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

Speaking of individual holes ... aw, Archie - you can giuess the rest yourself like a good little sphincter.

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Richard Cranium

I see your neuron is lonely again, on a Friday night.

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krw

I see that your alternate asshole retard personality has resumed control.

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ChairmanOfTheBored

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