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I found win 7 XP mode to be next best to useless - I was rather angry at being suckered into paying extra for the pro version just to get it. Still if can get it for free and it solves your problem YMMV..

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David Eather
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Make sure you didn't decide to use your WIFi instead of wire connection.

I know many/most desk top PC's these days have WiFi and may decide to be the connection for you instead of the wire if not properly setup.

The other problem could be uncle sam watching your every move!

Also, if could be the fact that you maybe using a 32 bit app iin a 64bit OS, it does make it a little slower.

Jamie

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M Philbrook

How obtuse.

Jamie

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M Philbrook

After having had the "pleasure" to "upgrade" to a Win 7 PC I currently would not touch Windows 10. Not even with a 10ft pole.

To me Win 7 was in part a productivity killer. I have yet to discover any positive things about it versus XP that could even remotely offset all the negative aspects of Windows 7.

Network handling in general is the pits with my Windows 7 PC. It needs to be kicked a lot until that works.

IMHO Microsoft has broken a lot of things after XP.

Good luck. You may need it.

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It finally finished at about 2AM after 5 GBytes of downloading on my

1.5Mbit/sec home DSL line. I would have done better hauling the machine to my palatial office and done the upgrade via the office cable modem (about 12-25 Mbits/sec). Worse, I had the Win 10 DVD but decided to experience the initial installation in the same manner as my customers. Lesson learned is that it takes about 11 hrs to upgrade an old Core 2 Quad Q6600 from Win 7 to Win 10 via a slow DSL line.

Interesting article. Basically he's right. MS changed the privacy defaults to send them everything. They also threw in some doubletalk during the installation such as "help us make xxxx better" which means send them everything that you're doing. I'm not sure that I'm ready to condemn a product based on a policy that also openly practiced by Google, Facebook, and others. If it's that painful, it should be easy enough to write a scripted registry tweak that will move all the privacy setting to a more secure default.

Whenever a new Microsoft product arrives, the initial reaction of the independent trade press (i.e. those that don't deliver Microsoft advertising) is always negative. I've seen this since the early daze of Windoze 2.x. Nobody seems interested in positive or even honest initial Microsoft product reviews. I have guesses why this is so, but I still find it amazing. After a few weeks of MS product bashing, the derogatory claque disappears and is replaced by more thoughtful and sane reviews.

Reading between the lines, and being too lazy to check, my guess is that the author of the above article favors Apple products and only uses Windoze because he's paid to do so. He certainly has a few other articles denouncing Windoze 10: Looking just at the above page, I note that NONE of his reviews and rants say anything positive about phones, Win 10, DAB, etc. I guess that's what represents the moral low ground in tech journalism these days.

Actually, I should welcome a screwed up operating system by Microsoft. My motto somewhat shows this. "If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me". It's on my business card and some stationary. Nobody has ever disagreed with it. If MS produced an operating system that was intuitive, easy to learn, reliable, resilient, feature correct, and cheap, I would be out of business.

As it now stands, I'm now upgrading 3 or 4 machines per day to Windoze

10 and installing mostly Samsung SSD's. In all cases, I make an image backup of the original Win 7 or 8.1 drive, so that if the customer doesn't like Windoze 10, I can roll it back to Windows 8.1 and continue from where they left off. I'll offer you the same advice I gave them:
  1. Wait a while. The issue of whether there will be a subscription fee for the Win 10 updates has NOT been clearly announced by Microsoft. Whether it is possible to roll back the OS to Win 7/8 is also undetermined.
  2. Wait a while. There are known bugs that need to be deal with. Most are benign but some are rather irritating. For example, Firefox has a problem shutting down and Chrome browser acts strangely:
  3. Wait a while. Windoze 10 seems much the same as Windoze 8.1. Unless there is some feature of Windoze 10 that you require, it's safer for now to continue using Windoze 8.1.
  4. If your Windoze 7 or 8.1 system is acting strangely, your Windoze
10 system will also act strangely. It's best to fix the problems with Win 8.1 before upgrading.
  1. Reserve judgment, which means ignore the pundits for now. Windoze
10 is certainly not the answer to all prayers, and is also not the spawn of the devil. Reality is somewhere in between, mostly dependent on which parts of Windoze 10 you plan to use. If you can't resist, then make sure you can restore your system to original condition before blundering forward.
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Kinda like passing judgment on the children based on the mistakes of the parents? Yeah, that works, but does have its limitations. I have some complaints about Windoze 7, the biggest of which was destroying a well known, and quite useful XP user interface. There are ways around this, but it would have been nice to at least have a choice of UI (such as the various window managers found on Linux).

Yep. There are a few network bugs that I've blundered into that defy explanation. My favorite is an inability to connect to the internet after a power cycle. Eventually, I realize the power to the ethernet card is being maintained during the reboot for WOL (wake on LAN). If the card is hung, it stays hung until I unplug the power from the wall, or physically remove the battery. There are also some really stupid bugs, such as sharing failure if you assign the shared name, shared directory, and system name to be identical, nothing works. I can usually wiggle around such problems, but it's not fun for the average user.

Yep. I still use XP on my main computers (home, office, laptop). XP works well enough.

No luck required. It took forever but once it was done downloading, the update went smoothly. 4 machines done so far, and 4 more on the bench awaiting my attention. Maybe I should stop typing and get back to work, or was that "fun"?

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Jeff Liebermann

Somebody tried DosBox in 64-bit Win8 and a compiled BASIC program i wrote ran fine.

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Robert Baer

Problem is,i cannot find "dosbox" in Win7 to test. Do i need to install a 64-bit version?

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Robert Baer

DOSbox does not come with Windoze 7. Cut-n-pasted from my previous posting:

Much easier is one of the DOS game environments, such as DOSbox: If it works, be sure to look at the many front end menu programs: DOSbox has also forked into various mutations. So far, I've had the best luck with DOSbox SVN DAUM at: More builds:

You're probably going to be doing some editing of the dosbox.config file. This should help: The config files from the various builds are very different.

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On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 19:53:06 -0700, Robert Baer Gave us:

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 20:11:56 -0700, Jeff Liebermann Gave us:

DOSBox does not "come with" ANY Windows version.

The one I DLd directly from the maker, however, runs in my Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine just fine.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

Maybe he only reviews bad stuff. That's valuable, and there is plenty of bad stuff to review.

Absolutely. I just upgraded from XP to Win7.

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John Larkin

After a few hours of fiddling, my Win7 desktop and folders and stuff look a lot like my XP machine. I like the breadcrums in explorer, but why did they kill the "up" arrow? And why don't the folder/file sizes show predictably?

My desktop icons like to reorder themselves, but there's a app that fixes that. I get the impression that Microsoft is disorganized.

My network drive icons have big red Xs in them, but they work fine.

We have hired a PC consultant guy to manage our upgrades, and general stuff afterwards, but he is kinda sloppy and flakey. Would you be interested? We are pretty far away.

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John Larkin

On my XP machine, it announces "uploading up to 7 new headers" and does so instantly. On W7, same setup, it takes maybe a minute. It seems to be scanning the entire usenet server or something.

I suppose I could get the new Agent and maybe use their server, too.

Software makes no sense. People just futz with things until they work.

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John Larkin

Who knows? You can get it back though through some gymnastics. Or just use Alt-Uparrow keyboard shortcut.

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I think you mean the "up one folder" icon. Classic Shell will put it back. You can also click on the previous directory in the explorer address bar. Also, you can use Alt-UpArrow to move up the directory tree. These might also be useful: Alt+Right = Go forward Alt+Left = Go back Alt+UpArrow = Go up one directory Alt+D = Focus the address bar and select the current path F4 = Pop up the dropdown in the address bar Alt+Enter = Properties of the selected file Ctrl+Mouse_wheel = change the size of the icons F11 = Full screen mode

By default, the folder options are set individually. If you want a global folder view, with things like menus, navigation symbols, and your favored columns showing, you have to customize it. Click on "view" at the top of the folder window or file explorer window, and make it look like you want. If it's a folder, right click -> Properties -> Customize There should be a "also apply this template to all sub-folders" check box. Bug me if this rough explanation is inadequate.

Ease of Access problem: Control Panel -> Ease-o-Access -> Make it easier to focus on tasks and CHECK the box "Prevent windows from being automatically arranged when moved to the edge of the screen". There are some other settings on that page that might be useful.

Perception is everything. I think they're still recovering from Steve Ballmer and others, who's "One Windows" vision resulted in a misermable compromise instead of several superior products. Much of what is contemptable about Windoze 8.1 was the result of trying to force fit a desktop onto a tablet size screen.

In the past, it has take Microsoft at least 18 months after the official release of a product for it to be considered worth using. MS gave up on Vista and Win 7 in order to rush the tabletized Windoze

8.1/RT to market, thus extending their development time. MS was good enough to repackage Win 8.1 fixes for Win 7, but that ended last year. So, what you're using is essentially a bad case of arrested development. By the time you're fed up with Win 7, Win 10 will be ready. However, don't wait too long. The free update is allegedly only available for about a year.

The "X" should go away. Much depends on how the sharing was setup on your computah. If devices were shared by IP address, and they change for some reason, that's what you'll see. Windoze sharing can still access them via the usual \\machine\share_name but will fail if it tries to use \\192.168.1.111\share_name. Just create a new icon for the drive. If it works without the big "X", delete the old one.

Thanks but no. Customers like me for several reasons. I jump when they say jump. When the problem can't be fixed by remote viewing or telekinesis, I usually show up within a day. I also can fix non-computah machines. All these require the "personal touch" which means I must make a personal appearance. I recognized the problem about 20 years ago and systematically reduced my customer list to only customers within easy driving range. That works well for me. I still do long distance remote system management using Teamviewer and ocassionally find myself on an airplane, but those are becoming rare.

Incidentally, I give new customers a simple choice. I can be punctual for appointments, or I can respond to emergencies, but not both. Most take the emergencies, which means that I appear to be unreliable, erratic, flaky, and sometimes late. It's not unusual for me to rearrange my schedule several times during the typical workday. You might ask your consultant if this is his problem.

Looks like Windoze 10 is the same old 18 month development cycle. I've been playing with it all day and finding lots of little problems. For example, I have both ethernet and wireless connected. When I disable the wireless, the networking icon in the system tray still proclaims that I'm connected via wireless. The background slide show is easily confused and produces ocassional black screens. Cortana is an obnoxious front end for Bing. Most of the privacy violating MS apps require a Microsoft account. Some other glitches, that are difficult to describe and reproduce. However, these are minor irritations and easily tolerated. All of the stuff that I need seems to be working quite well.

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Used to be able to see the full path in file explorer and copy and paste it into a "DOS vdm" (command line shell). Now, they have each directory segregated.. The "full path" also used to appear at the status line which does nothing now too. Wouldn't want to f*ck up that retarded tablet cohablet paradigm crap. So it's just a simple overtly thick border now.

Somebody threw a blue disc onto the source code and it "blowed up real good". (both an Ant Man and an SNL reference).

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

Control Panel -> File Explorer Options -> View I suggest you check the boxes: [x] Always show menus [x] Display the full path in the title bar and uncheck the box for: [ ] Hide extensions for known file types

In Win 7, 8, and 10, if you click on the file path window, it will display the full path suitable for cut-n-paste. Alt-D does it on one stoke of the key. Ctrl-C will copy it to the clipboard. Ctrl-V will paste it into a document, or if you're using a DOS cmd or shell window, right_click -> paste.

These are part of the my standard setup for a new computah. There's more but they are more of a personal preference than anything actually useful. With MS, you cannot trust the default settings to be sane.

What the deleted expletive are you talking about?

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On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 23:04:07 -0700, Jeff Liebermann Gave us:

That is what *I* said, and you come back with "try again".

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