Ping Bil Slowman; The global warming hoax reveiled

What is it that causes people to completely dismiss the elementary fact that plants absorb CO2 out of the atmosphere and turn it into food, building materials, and flower gardens?

Thanks, Rich

Leftist weenies don't like others to have food and shelter, and love ugly.

Sloman

I live in Northern California, about 35 miles east of Sacramento. And I am rather unafraid of volcanos, earthquakes and fires versus some "grand" ideas of man to "solve" a perceived crisis.

In the same way that I support the rigorous clinical testing and validation of stuff in my field of medical electronics. Where's the _thorough_ testing and validation of CO2 storage in old gas fields documented? Got any links?

Not to mention that the warming cycles PRECEDE the elevations in CO2 levels. This is pretty obvious, when you consider that cold water can hold more CO2 in solution than warm water can.

But Bill has faith, which trumps facts, like this inconvenient one:

Cheers! Rich

America,

Ahm, the glacier north of us on Mt.Shasta is growing ...

Maybe it hasn't heard of AGW and someone should tell it :-)

On a sunny day (Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:59:29 -0800) it happened Rich Grise wrote in :

Gore should be locked up.

He's done an excellent job of turning off Sloman's mind.

John

Okay boys and girls, FWIW let's whip out the calculator and fact-check the authoritative Mr. Bill:

France produces 447e12 watt-hours of electricity annually, and consumes 1.99 x 10e6 bbl of petroleum (37MJ/L) per day, plus 49.27e9 m^3 of natural gas (36.4 MJ/m^3) (CIA factbook)

How much energy is in that oil?

Doing the same for natural gas, we get:

(view table in fixed font) FOSSIL FUELS natural gas: 1.79 x 10^18 J petroleum: 4.27 x 10^18 J -------------- Subtotal: 6.06 x 10^18 J

ELECTRICAL Total electricity: 1.61 x 10^18 J (nuclear): 1.29 x 10^18 J

TOTAL FOSSIL+NUCLEAR 7.35 x 10^18 J

So, France gets 18% of its energy from nukes, 82% from FOSSIL fuels.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

That was a 30 second job. What else has he done?

I'm certifiably ugly ;-) ...Jim Thompson

...and leftist weenies just love you. ;-)

Comprehension has obviously never been your best skill!

Bill clearly stated;

"The French genenrate most of their electric power from nuclear reactors and yet you claimed"

Note the words ELECTRIC power.

You've used the CIA figures for total fossil fuels, which includes that used for transportation, heating, industrial processes etc.

The Wikipedia page for Nuclear Power in France states;

"In France, as of 2002[update], Électricité de France (EDF) ? the country's main electricity generation and distribution company ? manages the country's 58 nuclear power plants. As of 2008[update], these plants produce 90% of both EDF's and France's electrical power production (of which much is exported),[1] making EDF the world leader in production of nuclear power by percentage. In 2004, 425.8 TWh out of the country's total production of 540.6 TWh was from nuclear power (78.8%)."

Shame about all those wasted calculations you went through. Bill's post was authoritative.

-- Regards Malcolm Remove sharp objects to get a valid e-mail address

Sure! Can't you tell from all the adulation ?:-) ...Jim Thompson

Listen up, Joerg. If Sloman says you live in Oregon, you live in Oregon. It's a peer-reviewed fact.

John

What I was told before I married my sweetheart: If the father-in-law says that the water runs up the drain then it does run up the drain.

But he turned out to be a fun guy. Wish he was still around.

Nice to see that Slowman has decreed a format that every one can understand.

Although, I doubt that all will fuzzy warm feelings about! :)

Right. Bill wrongly threw out a red herring. Jan noted that fossil fuels made all this (civilization) possible, and Bill blabbered an irrelevant statistic about one of France's minor power sources, as if that meant France were fossil-fuel independent.

That was all bogus, so I brought the thing back on point.

Bill's post was specious, but thanks for checking. Hope you enjoyed the herring!

-- Cheers, James Arthur

Nice try, but as I commented before, comprehension is not your best skill.

Jan introduced nuclear energy when he stated

To which Bill replied

and then you lost the plot.

If you look at the subject for this thread you'll hopefully realise your claim to have brought it back on point is complete nonsense. And who appointed you thread controller of sed!

The fishy smell is all emanating from your direction.

-- Regards Malcolm Remove sharp objects to get a valid e-mail address

Here's a link to more AGW, academic global warming:

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But analysis of the raw climate data from the same temperature stations has just turned up a very different result:

Gone is the relentless rising temperature trend, and instead there appears to have been a much smaller growth in warming, consistent with the warming up of the planet after the end of the Little Ice Age in

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