Ping Bil Slowman; The global warming hoax reveiled

On a sunny day (Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:22:54 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman wrote in : Good, then we can forget all that Gore stuff about farting cows and pigs =

Yes typical religious fanatic statement: 'kill all lifeforms that do not comply with the rools in my book'. Where have I heard that before? But this works against you too, You could stop living to improve your dataset :-) Save us all!

(I know it is mean, but you asked for it).

loman

towards nuclear power.

rces, so Exxon & friends

Windmills and solar power installations are currently more popular, can deliver power a lot sooner, and don't generate nasty radioactive waste that we still haven't worked out how to deal with after fifty yeras of running nuclear power stations.

know everything',

It would be nice if you learned a bit more, so that I didn't have to start every reply I make to one of your posts by pointing out what you have got wrong.

This isn't the same as saying that you know nothing - you do get some things right - nor a claim that I know everything - which is only slightly less absurd.

You could perhaps be more specific about what you conceive to be my religion.

Whatever it might be, I don't see myself as pushing it. What I do push is objectively verifiable knowledge, and I object to postings that make claims that don't happen to be true, like your claim that people who accept that anthropogenic global warming is going on want us to reduce our energy consumption to an absolute minimum and move ourselves into unheated grass huts.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

loman

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This may be a typical religious fanatic statement, but since I haven't made such a statement, or anything vaguely like it, I can't see that this is a useful or relevant observation.

Beats me. Certainly not from me.

How? Since you are raging against a statement that you seem to have invented for your own perverse satisfaction.

Your own dataset does seem to nedd purging.

The aim is to educate you to the point where you can save yourself - there still seems to be quite a way to go.

I asked you to first invent an idiotic statement? and then to carry on as if it had something to do with me?

This isn't mean, or evil, or vicious, just deluded.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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IPCC just collects numbers from the peer-reviewd literature. Those numbers are generated by physicists on the basis of models of infra- red absorbtion and emission through the atmosphere, and the authors involved wouldn't come into contact with Mann, who works on old climate data from trees and lake beds, and probably not with Philip D. Jones, who seems to spend his time crunching current observations.

As usual, you enthusiasm for fatuous conspiracy theories is clouding your vision.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

On a sunny day (Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:49:43 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman wrote in :

Windmills are an unreliable energy source, no wind for some time and no energy AT ALL. You need an energy storage system, several experiments are being done, but an energy storage system that can bridge weeks for example, is not currently possible in an economic way. And the same green nut cases that vote for 'clean' energy vote against windmills because of 'horizon pollution', and because those kill birds, and .. and .. ?

Solar power in the Netherlands is a big joke, as it has now been raining and cloudy for weeks, so nothing would work. I tried a solar panel myself, and you are lucky if it can power a transistor radio, at low volume that is. It would not even charge my nicads (long time ago). There is a plan for solar power in the Sahara desert, but that is future talk, political instability makes it sort of difficult to guarantee the electricity will make it all the way here that is not counting transport losses. And *STILL* that does not run your cars, your building machines, ships, what not. So that is bull.

Shoot it into the sun, and store it under Nijmegen of course. Make nice small RTGs with it, everybody one for in the car and in the house.

I have a bit wider view then your old university mailing letter, or wherever you get that crap from, Al Gores radio show, or the local pub. What you need to learn is see the difference between political manipulation of the masses and real science. Science, as soon as it finds something, becomes an instrument of politics, and is used to control the masses. If money is needed, oh, let's look for something to tax, oh, well, lets tax something that everybody uses, *energy*. Kilometres, now we just wait for a fart tax... You simply do not see the political manipulation by rats like Al gore and his cohorts, only for profit, selling useless stuff, factual wrong books, scaremonging children, and older ones with the same weak defence systems against that crap, like you.

AGW

That data, for a start, was cooked, as the hacked emails show. Gore changes song every time something he said has been proven wrong. He is on the defence now.

Well, that is what you are advocating, windmill and solar cell on you grass hut's roof for your tea warmer. Won't run your washing machine though.

On a sunny day (Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:12:48 -0800 (PST)) it happened Bill Sloman wrote in :

Oh really. When you start going on about methane, and life creates methane. So how to stop that? Just accept the climate and weapon yourself against nature by *HAVING ENOUGH ENERGY*. And that means these days: OIL, NATURAL GAS, NUCLEAR POWER, ......... nothing ...... nothing... windmills, solar. Your AGW religion, is like many religions, denying reality and objective observation.

You have stated that we will go dinosaur's way if we do not stop AGW, I am telling you that we will go that way if we listen to crap like that, and not invest in more nuclear power plants, and perhaps get fusion power working.

I could however imagine a government to order all new houses build to have solar panels [and a windmill] on the roof. In itself an interesting experiment, but of course solar panels and windmills will be taxed extra then. I had a car on LPG, it was cheap, very cheap. But then they increased the road-tax (wegen belasting in Dutch) so it would be just as expensive as a petrol powered car. See, it is all about the money, nothing else. And it will always be. Nature, accept it.

John

are bad for the world,

Don't you people ever do electronic design? One nice thing about electronics is that you know pretty soon whether you're right or not. Another is that you can finish one thing and move on to another.

John

Well, thanks to you both. There are few things more disappointing than raw mashed potatoes.

John

Spot-on.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

When I was stationed at Beale, we'd sometimes drive to Reno on the weekends by the "back" route (through the mountain forests - real pretty country); anyway, on the way back, there's an aqueduct that looks like the water is running uphill. ;-)

Cheers! Rich

When I was at Beale AFB (mid-1970's), I was living in the on-base trailer park. One day when some friends were over, we had a mild earthquake. At the time, the conventional wisdom was "Get Outside!". The temblor was over by the time we all got out to the front yard, when I realized, "Hey! This is a mobile home! You can haul it down the highway at 55 MPH! What's a little earthquake going to do to it?" ;-)

Cheers! Rich

I used to live in northern California, and what Joerg describes isn't anything like where I was, so, I now have Faith that he lives in Oregon.

;-) Rich

I probably runs to the left, from which ever way you look at it too.

"Climategate" - I LOVE it! ;-) ;-) ;-)

Cheers! Rich

Short version: "Weathergate"?

Wasn't that from the iconoclastic flow? ;-P

Cheers! Rich

Hell, cow farts are nothing - they belch more methane than they fart.

The _real_ problem is termite farts. ;-)

Cheers! Rich

Just this morning I saw an AGW preach on edjamacaishunal teevee, and I swear I saw them do this:

1. Take some raw data:
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1. Cherry-pick what suits your purposes:
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2. Extrapolate:
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Of course, they only showed it from step 2 to step 3.

I wonder if(when?) the mainstream media are going to clue up to Climategate?

Thanks, Rich