OT: Seattle is DYING - thanks to a LIBTARD city council, judges and head prosecutor

What individuals can do is leave. And take their money with them.

When will the Russian troll go somewhere other than this usenet group?

Do not feed the troll!

John

If big tech-center cities keep getting more expensive and less livable, technology will disperse within the USA, or move to more friendly countries that don't tolerate tent cities or destructive riots, and have lower taxes. Both are happening now.

A lot of giant tech companies are moving out of San Francisco now too.

Nevada sure wants my company.

In Rhode Island you can spend $35 on your gubernatorial campaign, be an official candidate and come in third place!

The Freakonomics guys argue that high tech thrives in big cities with good universities and good access to high-tech consultants and high-tech service companies - the sort of service the John Larkin seems to think he offers.

Sustaining that kind of population density comes at a cost, and John seems to be more sensitive to the costs than he is to the advantages.

They may be figuring that Zoom works well enough to replace face-to-face meetings, or they may just be companies that have got infested by masters of business administration who have lost sight of how the company originally got big. One of the more famous expressions of that is that railways went under because the people who ran them though that they were running a railway company, when they were actually running a transportation service.

Make them happy. Your employees may not want to move to Nevada, and your customers may not want to bother to go to Nevada to tell you what new circuits you could sell them, but think of the money you will save as your business dwindles.

-- Bill Sloman, Sydney

The residents voted for the present Socialist System of Seattle unfortunately.

I'm not sure how the majority of residents feel about the present situation but in my and everybody I know, it is awful.

I grew up around the Seattle area and see how bad it is now. I am so glad that I can usually not have to drive through Seattle. It used to be a beautiful city and some parts are still wonderful if you can find a place to park and not get bothered by people.

Business are definitely moving out of town or contemplating. Amazon is moving at least partly to Bellevue, on the east side of Lake Washington.

I'm glad I grew up when I did and won't have to deal with the political future of the world after another 20 or 30 years.

America will have to wait a little longer to be ruled with an iron fist and robbed blind by whatever goose-stepping thug the MAGAmillions choose to bend the knee to, I'm afraid.

If citizens get tired of the chaos, they will vote for more rational politicians and things will get better.

But if they move out, there will be a positive-feedback loop to make things worse, and Seattle will run out of money.

I have friends who are moving from San Francisco to Tennessee, which I think is extreme.

I'd rather still be alive and live with some annoyances.

But things alternate. We may have a conservative reaction to the current nonsense.

Or to President Harris and the machines pulling her strings. The Left is always better at power games.

The world in 20 or 30 years must deal with massive (and ever increasing) public debt that can't be repaid. That will change things more than guys wearing red baseball caps.

The prospect of a self-admitted regular weed-smoker who used her prosecutorial authority to throw the book at young people for engaging the same activity, having significant power doesn't enthuse me.

Maintaining 800 military bases worldwide ain't cheap....think of all the infrastructure that could've been built for what it cost to fail at the stealth-paint-peeling jack-of-no-trades, master of none fighter:

“I want to moderate how much we’re using those aircraft,” the general said. “You don’t drive your Ferrari to work every day, you only drive it on Sundays. This is our high end, we want to make sure we don’t use it all for the low-end fight… We don’t want to burn up capability now and wish we had it later.”

The comparison to the best Italian engineering money can by isn't encouraging. You use solid designs _more_ often! Not less often!

That's the worst kind of hypocrisy when politicians do that and I'm not the least bit happy about it, either. Very similar thing happened in Britain recently with a fellow called Michael Gove. Bastard!

Sanity is definitely preferable to the current state of affairs.

Not just Seattle. The debt situation has become completely uncontainable and we can't be too far away now from the Great Reset and consequent tribulation.

If you remember, I expressly told you on this forum that you were

*crazy* to move your business to SF shortly after you stated your intentions to do so. And you ignored my sage advice! :-D

This is the way the world works, unfortunately. Humans lurch from one extreme to the other in giant cycles; so rarely is a middle ground the norm for any extended period of time. 'Twas ever thus. Let's just hope it doesn't get too ugly, but I'm kind of expecting it will.

The guy you hate was trying to fix that.

Why do Democrats usually start wars?

Because about half of them are Republicans

I'll buy that when defense spending goes down instead of up consistently; over the past 20 years defense spending has only seemed to increase.

She was a lousy pick with a lot of problems. Whatever, I didn't pick the woman and thought there was a good chance it would sink the Biden campaign. Despite various baseless claims to the contrary it didn't seem to which IMO is only a commentary on how little the average American tends to care about hypocrisy in practice, but we knew that already.

Debt and taxes are just on issue. I see people leaving cities because the streets stink, their cars and houses get burgled, and they want safe places and good schools for their kids.

I moved to SF in 1979 and started two businesses; the current one is over 30 years old. In those days, it was pretty much like any other city, clean and affordable and actually fairly conservative. It's home now, and here I am.

Fortunately, SF is "a collection of villages" and some are very nice. I avoid the others.

I want to write a book about peer-pressure dynamics. Bunches of people believe what they think bunches of people believe, and that's dynamically unstable.

Think of all the crazy fads in fashion and music and architecture. Even food; people don't know what tastes good until they hear what other people like.

Hey SL0WMAN, your comments show just how OUT OF TOUCH you are.

First off, the rail business is a VERY GOOD business to be in - just ask Warren Buffett. The reason is pretty simple: they have the lowest cost of moving freight. The passenger business, on the other hand, SUCKS! The reason is the revenue generated by passenger traffic is abysmal, but it consumes precious track bandwidth. Freight rail traffic has priority over passenger trains in the US. Australia even has robotic trains.

John would be wise to move to Nevada from a financial perspective, especially Las Vegas which has excellent airline connections. The need for customers to visit your facility is dropping fast with modern telecommunications. Who the hell wants to spend several days and thousands of dollars to visit a vendor when a Zoom meeting will accomplish the same thing during lunch? Oh, that, of course, would be YOU!