OOOKAY- This Explains Everything- A Woman at the Helm of the Sewol

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The mental midgets are still mystified about the cause of the sinking. The idiot crew apparently did not conduct a damage assessment, I mean the entir e boat was wracked with a hellacious impact like they hit a submerged islan d and no one thinks to investigate the holds for damage or flooding??? WTF! They were obviously taking on water fast. Had the "captain" known this, he wouldn't have made the bad decision to keep the passengers onboard waiting for the rescue craft.

On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Apr 2014 13:56:31 +0100) it happened snipped-for-privacy@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Adrian Tuddenham) wrote in :

OK I should perhaps have written 'socialist' or '0bama-mist'

I think you are taking the world much to seriously. Personally I have no problem dropping a nuke if that was my job, and would not lose second sleep over it.

If some headmaster hangs himself because he thinks it is his fault then I really can only call him insane.

Political correctness is the sickness brought about by socialists trying to gain votes from mentally less capable life forms, and yes that includes the ones you mentioned.

no, first you already divide by sort of suggesting someone else's opinion is wrong and yours 'the right one'. Wonder how you would react in a real stress situation, not so sure about that, usually wauwels flip out within seconds.

Well, I can only make fun of the whole situation, maybe 'morbid' but there is truth in it. All the whining an babble does not bring anybody back alive. Steering a dangerous contraption like that modified floating tower full of uncontrolled passengers by an inexperienced apart from potato frying perhaps women was -a mistake-. The one who put her there, the one who modified that ship and willingly to get that order ignored basic math, basic physics made a mistake, the one who hanged himself while it was not his fault made a mistake, and so on and so on. So something will be done in the blaming game, and somebody (some poly-tic-sian)_ will use that to better or hold their position (hold not being the right word but cannot be bothered to look it up), actually I think 0bama as the most powerful man in the world (according to his own propaganda) in charge of the world so to speak, is responsible, and should immediately hang himself. That should solve and for sure prevent many of the world's problems.

The attack is anything but "unjustified." The South Korea President has co ndemned the crew's actions as akin to murder. And gender has everything to do with it because the facts surrounding the setup of this situation are mo re pervasive than just "a woman at the helm." You're obviously a pathetical ly simple-minded dolt, no one would give five cents for your opinion on any matter.

Go hang yourself, you prissy little PC queen, idiot.

Den mandag den 21. april 2014 11.33.19 UTC+2 skrev Jan Panteltje:

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n with the ship"? Costa Concordia and now this the

ll be seeing pilots baling out of troubled airliners

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s) running from left to right,

igh above water level,

22ton of people isn't much compared to the ~1200 tons of cargo or the ship itself and it should capable of much bigger waves

unless it hit something or a serious amount of cargo shifted I don't see it tilting much

-Lasse

Den mandag den 21. april 2014 11.50.27 UTC+2 skrev snipped-for-privacy@downunder.com:

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n with the ship"?

I know, going down with an empty ship would be pointless. it is more a figure of speech that the captain has the ultimate responsibility for the passengers and ship so he stays on board until everyone is safe or there is no other options

afaiu it is the law in some countries amount them Korea

ll be seeing pilots baling out of troubled airliners mid-flight next.

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having seem documentaries of old WWII bombers I'm surprised anyone got out

-Lasse

On Monday, April 21, 2014 10:57:27 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wro te:

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own with the ship"? Costa Concordia and now this the

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it tilting much

Right, initially a lot of bulk cargo came loose and shifted due to the acce leration of the sharp turn, causing the permanent tilt, which exceeded the rating of the tie downs for another mountain of material or a bulkhead, and when that finally let loose the capsize happened.

I was hoping you would think my opinion was the right one and that you would agree with me that the anonymous O/P's attack was wrong in the circumstances.

You seem to have information about what took place which you have not explained. Are you suggesting that it has already been established as a fact that the person at the helm lost her head in a crisis and caused the disaster?

I didn't see anything in that article about the woman's only previous experience being in frying potatoes; if that is true, the person who allowed her to take charge of a ship deserves a very severe penalty, regardless of whether it was a mistake on her part that caused the disaster.

If, however, you are merely suggesting that women are only good at frying potatoes and cannot become competent engineers, ships' captains, research scientists, doctors and all the other responsible professionals which women nowadays are, you need to face up to the real world. They have managed to reach those positions in spite of the brainless prejudices which they have had to fight on the way.

So you are saying it is perfectly all right for the O/P to blame and ridicule the woman, who was put in this unfortunate situation as the result of other people's mistakes, because she is a woman?

The fact that she is a woman does not "Explain Everything" to me, it explains nothing and is completely irrelevant to what happened. What that header does explain to me is that the person who wrote it is trying to perpetuate sexist bigotry and I don't think we should let it pass without exposing it for what it is.

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I hope you will not be afraid to say that to the next female proctologist you meet.

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The most promising female electronics engineer that I helped to coach was very good at analogue and R.F. stuff, but she was so exasperated by the apallingly bad standard of teaching at the local college and the lack of job prospects that she dropped off the course and took a low-paid manual job.

Two female mechanical engineers that I know have both given up engineering because of lack of opportunity. One went into stock control (at a fairly high management level) the other took a job as a school secretary. What a waste!

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On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Apr 2014 17:50:46 +0100) it happened snipped-for-privacy@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Adrian Tuddenham) wrote in :

You are sick man, very sick.

The news reports I have read, said that the officer piloting the ship at the time was a rookie, and was not familiar with the waters through which the ship was being sailed. Other reports said that it's a high-traffic region, with a complex "safe channel".

The captain was not on the bridge at the time of the accident.

If true, the above says to me that there was a serious problem with sailing discipline... and that's the captain's responsibility. Every new officer needs proper on-the-job training and supervision during his or her first voyages... and it seems that this was lacking.

This explains a lot more to me than the gender of the officer in question.

I recall a bit from one of Tom Clancy's novels... a sea-rescue captain who posted a sign in the command deck. "No one will ever be disciplined in any way for calling the captain to the bridge at any time. I don't care if you just want to check the time - CALL ME!" The captain was familiar with too many cases in which a junior officer, not wanting to "bother the captain", didn't alert the captain to something questionable and ended up causing an accident.

STFW- like I really care, wog.

There are areas[*] where the captain gives up control to a local pilot because the channel is too complicated to trust to the ship's captain. Insurance companies demand it.

[*]New York harbor is one such place. The Sandy Hook Pilot's Association has a monopoly on the harbor.

A fighter pilot after shooting the bomber tail gunner and putting 1-2 engines on fire would leave that plane and concentrate on more "valuable" targets, thus leaving more time to bail out.

In Finland, according to local news services, the pilot and the two survivors exited through the pilot's door. The parachute of the last survivor was hanging in the trees very close to the crash site, so a very close escape.

Staying on board by the pilot would have killed everyone.

R.I.P

Seven of the passeed away were from my home town. One of my former colleagues started parachuting in the same club, but based on the ages of the deceased, he was not on that flight.

You were there and you speak Korean? Amazing coincidence.

Pefhany

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down with the ship"? Costa Concordia and now this the

We'll be seeing pilots baling out of troubled airliners

41705

(kids) running from left to right,

insanely high above water level,

ship itself and it should capable of much bigger waves

it tilting much

A lot depends on the length of the lever arm involved with that mass.

?-)

On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Apr 2014 13:43:10 -0700) it happened John Larkin wrote in :

Yea, hippocrite! When your child made her first PCB it ALSO was a disaster and that was WITH YOUR supervision! You posted about that here.

What you so easily brush under the carpet is that people who have grown up from young age at sea so to speak, like we say and you often claim hobbyists from 6 years up, do NOT make the same beginners mistakes as somebody walking in from home cooking, like putting the soldering iron on a can of gasoline or whatever. thats goes both for boys and girls, but really there is no indication that this women or girl had any previous experience, schooling, or maybe even interest or understanding of the subject of steering a tilting tower in dangerous waters. Here it takes years of schooling before you can steer a ship. You will have to do it in slimulators, on that route, long before you are even allowed NEAR a real ship. Maybe Korea is more than 20 years behind, but I would not think so from their export, OK Samsung. OK I give up. ;-)

That was sarcasm directed at bloggsy.

We need new fonts, "sarcasm" "irony" "humor" and "I really mean this."

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