I was reading about the new coronavirus and the article talked about homolo gues in the context of the RNA coding for several proteins which have no kn own "homologues". I tried looking up the word to understand the precise me aning and found this sort of definition across the board.
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a homologous thing.
So I Googled "using a word in its own definition".
"A word is autological or homological if it describes itself."
So I guess a homologue is defined to be a self defining definition using th e word homologous to define homolog.
It's not me. The world is crazy!
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mologues in the context of the RNA coding for several proteins which have n o known "homologues". I tried looking up the word to understand the precis e meaning and found this sort of definition across the board.
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g the word homologous to define homolog.
Yeah, I know that. But in the context of a viral protein I believe the use of the word is a bit of jargon with a meaning a bit more detailed or at le ast conveying more meaning that the simple example you provided. I'm not c ertain they are saying what you seem to be saying, a "protein unique to tha t genome" as every protein is unique to a genome, there's nearly a one to o ne mapping if you ignore multiple codons for a given amino acid. I think t hey are saying these are proteins that have not been seen before or anythin g close to it. Proteins often have small variations between species or eve n within a species while having the same function.
Anyway, this was about the absurdity of using a homologue of the word in th e definition of the word homologous and finding this is VERY common. What' s wrong with these people??? Next they'll stop using land lines and drive electric cars!!!
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My own anecdotal evidence suggests that online definitions fall somewhere in the middle.
My printed _Oxford Dictionary of English_ definition of /homologue/ matches the online homolog definition shown above word for word: /noun/ a homologous thing.
The online
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definition provides greater detail:
n. Something that is homologous, as an organ, body part, or gene.
My printed _Dorland's Illustrated Medical Dictionary_ contains the most comprehensive definition for the word /homologue/.
any homologous organ or part; an organ similar in structure, position, and origin to another organ, as the front flippers of a seal and human hands. See /analogue/. 2. in chemistry, one of a series of compounds, each of which is formed from the one before by the addition of a constant element or a constant group of elements, as in the homologous series CH4, C2H6, C3H8, etc.; called also /homologen/.
[Two dimensional structural formulas for propane, butane, and pentane, shown over the caption /Homologues./]
Thank you,
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The problem seems to be that online dictionaries only give you a peephole view. So a 'homologue' is a 'homologous thing', and the entry just preceding that on the printed version then tells you what 'homologous' is, but you don't get to see that unless you look for it. Yeah, that sucks.
Translated from the Greek, it means something like 'same reason', 'same ratio', 'same word', 'same argument'. You already knew, I guess.
logues in the context of the RNA coding for several proteins which have no known "homologues". I tried looking up the word to understand the precise meaning and found this sort of definition across the board.
mologues in the context of the RNA coding for several proteins which have n o known "homologues". I tried looking up the word to understand the precis e meaning and found this sort of definition across the board.
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g the word homologous to define homolog.
Don't know what kind of fool would look in the dictionary. The operative id ea here is not a word but a phrase, sequence homology, a term of evolutiona ry biology. His most cluelessness was reading a story which delved into the investigation of the origins of the new virus, especially as it may have e volved from or have similarity to the deadly SARS virus. There is no signif icant connection, it is a new virus.
homologues in the context of the RNA coding for several proteins which have no known "homologues". I tried looking up the word to understand the prec ise meaning and found this sort of definition across the board.
ing the word homologous to define homolog.
idea here is not a word but a phrase, sequence homology, a term of evolutio nary biology. His most cluelessness was reading a story which delved into t he investigation of the origins of the new virus, especially as it may have evolved from or have similarity to the deadly SARS virus. There is no sign ificant connection, it is a new virus.
Yes, and we all know the new viruses come from snips and snails and puppy d og tails, not other, very closely related viruses that likely had a genetic change coding for a protein in the outer shell which means it triggers new antibodies or some small change in the way it infects.
Nope, it's got to be puppy dog tails.
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This latest one comes from fruit bats.
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Usually the reservoir is unaffected by the virus. And since you're kind of batty, I deduce you have nothing to worry about.
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"We still don?t know the source of the disease or how it was transm itted"
They still have not determined the source, just that it is likely "though a mammal at the live meat market".
This one seems less virulent than SARS. Maybe because China is being much more cooperative and working to share information.
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mologues in the context of the RNA coding for several proteins which have n o known "homologues". I tried looking up the word to understand the precis e meaning and found this sort of definition across the board.
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g the word homologous to define homolog.
By the same argument so is Mathematics and by extrapolation, so is science other than astrology, phrenology and exit polling.
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logues in the context of the RNA coding for several proteins which have no known "homologues". I tried looking up the word to understand the precise meaning and found this sort of definition across the board.
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the word homologous to define homolog.
Here is a new low.
Noun
Rightpondian (plural Rightpondians)
(slang) A Rightpondian person.
You can't use the exact SAME word in a definition!!! You've provided liter ally no additional information.
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