Noise level on this group

I read and enjoy reading this group on Google Groups, but the amount of junk posted here makes sorting through it tedious. Do I need to use a mail reader such as Thunderbird to filter this stuff out, or is there a way to do it on Google Groups? Thanks for the advice!

Reply to
Fred
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You'll need a newsreader. That, and maybe set it up with a few simple filters, & you're good to go.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

Reply to
dagmargoodboat

usenet client

To do really deep filtering, such as looking into the body text and all of the header lines, not just the overview headers (typically From, Subject, Newsgroups, Message-ID, Date) you need to set up a local news server that acts as an intermediate between the server "out there" and your client. This can be, and often is, on your own machine; a separate box to act as a server is not necessary.

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I use Hamster Playground, mostly because I tried it first, got it working, and am happy with the results. Quite a few around here use nfilter/NewsProxy instead (probably for similar reasons ;-)

Not that I'm aware of.

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Rich Webb     Norfolk, VA
Reply to
Rich Webb

From groups.google.com try:

-wholesale -skybuck group:sci.electronics.design

Basically just put a dash in front of any word you want weeded out of your threads.

Michael

Reply to
Michael

You will find a lot of people are ignoring posts from @gmail these days because they are a very badly behaved spam injection route.

Thunderbird is a pretty good newsreader for Usenet and allows relatively easy configuration of global anti-spammer filters based on sender and subject keywords. I deduce from the apparently large number of headers being ignored that some of the sci.* hierarchy is under attack again.

Regards, Martin Brown

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Martin Brown

Since much of the noise and junk comes from Google mail, and because Google just doesn't give a @#$% about being a good citizen and shutting down the spammers (which you're supposed to do), be sure to send Google a nice mail telling them why you're not using Google groups any more. Be sure to CC it to some of the advertisers that appear on their pages, 'cause that's where their money comes from.

Maybe if enough folks do that they'll clean up their act.

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www.wescottdesign.com
Reply to
Tim Wescott

Nah, I doubt they would listen.

He should just dump google and get a real news service. It ain't expensive, mine costs 10 Euros per year, or about $14 right now (plus bank fees).

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Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
Reply to
Joerg

What's the problem? It's trivial to block all of them...

Author: @gmail | @yahoo | @hotmail | @notmail | @aioe | @uar | @googlemail.com | asgard24 | Jonathan Bromley | Phil Allison | snipped-for-privacy@valero.com | snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

You forgot 126.com etc--they're all over some of the other groups.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

Apparently not in any of the groups I follow, but I'll keep an eye out.

...Jim Thompson

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Reply to
Jim Thompson

Newsreaders are pretty limited in what they can do. The trick is **layers**.

Rich Webb has given the most useful response so far. He has previously described some of his use of Hamster.

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*-unique-IDs+%20regex+my.Hamster.kill.fi=lter+163+cn+dirskyster+whitelist+dirskys+killfile.by.Message-ID+gmail+*-*-*=-*-*-*-*-*-account-for-*-*-*-*+regular-expressions+zzz+126 Use the search engine to find even more of that.

Jim Thompson posted to this thread but didn't list much detail about the multiple layers he uses. Webb mentioned NewsProxy (which JT uses--but didn't mention). JT also went into detail previously:

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*-flagged-messages=+whitelist+adds-text-to-the-Subject-line-*-downloads-*-headers+leaves-*-unm=arked-messages-on-*-server+DROP+googlegroups+FLAG+uar+nfilter+all+bye+easy

It can be done to some extent, but even that little bit is tedious for what your get back:

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Reply to
JeffM

Google groups is a sad method of accessing Usenet. Get a real new client.

Also, many here filter out google groups posters, so you words will go unseen until you get off google.

Reply to
ChairmanOfTheBored

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Jim, Phil Allison? How can you? That's one of the best comedy/dramas around. Phil is unpredictable, never can tell where he's at in his medicinal dosage. Sometimes I have a little nostalgic pang for his long name calling tirades. Mike :-) PS. He's been quite friendly lately.

Reply to
amdx

I tried your filter and it removed 1100+ messages from this group:) Added in @126.com and killed another 114.

Reply to
Raveninghorde

Now I've applied Jim's filter I've lost the OP - and a LOT of crap.

Reply to
Raveninghorde

Maybe some of my other filter types take care of that. I can't recall any problems with 126.com

I also have a whitelist _ahead_ of my filter. There are some good guys that must use google, etc., like Win Hill.

...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
| Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
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| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             |
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
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Reply to
Jim Thompson

I have a _special_ filter for NymNoNuts. Trivial and very selective and effective ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
| Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             |
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     |
             
 I love to cook with wine     Sometimes I even put it in the food
Reply to
Jim Thompson

You use Firefox, yes?

Then download and install Greasemonkey:

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Which this works with:

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Glad to help!

Mark L. Fergerson

Reply to
alien8er

This seems to work well. Thanks to everyone for the ideas!

Reply to
Fred

The retard Jim, His filter, and all the other retards that use one, or "his", are all about as stupid as it gets.

Filter with your mouse and your brain. Pretty simple shit.

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UpYerNose

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