Microwave brain scrambler?

Thank you for your mature, thoughtful consideration of the science that does exist, gentlemen. :)

Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11, December,

1979

Bioelectromagnetics Volume 5 Issue 1, Pages 71 - 78 Published Online: 19 Oct 2005

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Like I said, I reviewed that paper (and others) years ago. It does not say what you think it says. And you have been talking about GHz radiation, which can be focussed quite tightly - thats how radar works.

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I may not have mentioned this but she had evidence. Photographs of burned skin. Depositions. Opinions from expert witnesses. 700 prior complaints.

Evidence is very important. It allows you to proceed.

Without evidence, people will be called kooks.

Not that it would happen among open minded scientists such as ourselves, you understand.

Just generally speaking.

:)

Thanks for your constructive criticism.

--Winston

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Winston

For $600k I'd pour hot coffee over my hand.

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She finally settled for an 'undisclosed sum'.

One gets you 10 that she now owes her lawyer a very large amount of money.

Is she really the best winner we can find?

:)

--Winston

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Winston

A successful conspiracy doesn't work if it relies on several thousand McBurger managers keeping their mouths shut.

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What does the paper say about the effect of (low frequency amplitude modulated) non-ionizing radiation of specific power level on neural cells, in your opinion?

Have a look starting on the third paragraph on page 1088 if you would please. It starts with the line "We repeated these experiments with radiofrequency signals using sinusoidal amplitude modulation from 0.5 to 35 Hz. These radiofrequency fields coupled much more strongly into the tissue."

He relates the movement of calcium ions in the brain as one of the indicators of natural inter-neural activity and as a key effect of the modulation of the non-ionizing radiation used as 'virtual electrodes' (my phrase, not Dr. Adey's).

See also page 192 where Dr. Adey says "Future research may indicate that long-term human exposure to signals with these particular low-frequency characteristics should be avoided or carefully controlled."

If that isn't a "hacker flag", I don't know what is. :)

Yes, the beam-width can be set at design time.

The carrier frequency of the non-ionizing radiation appears to be unimportant. It is the power density of the radiation and the modulation waveform impressed upon it that appears to force brain tissue to respond in lock step, disregarding the natural neural inputs that are sensed before and after the customer is denied vision, hearing, consciousness and muscle control.

Microwaves will merely provide a way to direct the low frequency manipulation signal away from the manager and towards the customer.

Can you help me understand your point about carrier frequency and beam width please?

Thanks

--Winston

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Winston

First off, Adey is warning about chronic exposure, not acute effects. Beam spread primarily depends on dish size relative to carrier wavelength. A low GHz beam can be quite spread limited with a large dish. That's the basis of conventional microwave communications.

Also, for calcium ion resonance (cyclotron resonance) you also need an external magnetic field to be matched to the radiation intensity. Normally, that would be the geomagnetic field which being so weak limits the effectiveness of the intensity of the carrier. So if you really want to zap someone, you should place them in a powerful magnetic field to start with.

A lot of this sort of stuff was investigated by Persinger.

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You do understand that the victims will not complain because they will never see any evidence that the transmitter even exists, yes? What will they have to complain about?

There will be no evidence. (I may have forgotten to make that point.)

Evidence. And when Mr FBI asks the store

Mr. FBI will never be involved. No crimes will be committed because no law enforcement agency will ever be equipped to detect the transmitter. Even if you grabbed Eliot Ness by the collar, lifted a drop ceiling panel and smacked a yardstick on the rim of the parabolic antenna: 1) He is not going to "officially" know what he's looking at. 2) If he does eventually understand what he is looking at, he can reasonably point out that there is no law against that gear in that place and that there is no evidence that it was used illegitimately. 3) He may reasonably point out the lack of case law defining microwave attack as 'assault'. 4) If pressed he will point out that the restaurant owner has every right to defend himself against armed robbers.

This will not be just an 'uphill battle' for honest targets.

It will be impossible for them because no one will ever understand that the transmitter is in place and being used immorally.

How so? Technically, a slightly larger antenna, higher carrier frequency and a good sized amplifier are the changes needed to my original outline. Dare I mention that multiple transmitters could provide excellent coverage?

Legally, there is no prohibition against burning someone with a microwave beam (for example). It is not considered assault and perhaps never will be.

For grins just now, I Googled ("case law" "microwave burn" assault) Got zero hits. That string is so unusual that it didn't even show up in any 'word salad' harvesting site.

Logistically, a facilities installer working for cash on the side could get a packaged system up and running within a couple hours after arrival.

I would never do that because the transmitter will represent the darkest side of human thought.

But mostly I feel that 'sunlight is the best disinfectant'.

Thanks for your thoughts.

--Winston

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On 3/13/2010 10:29 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: (...)

I conclude that beginning on page 235 of a document you wrote, you present some opinions regarding electromagnetics.

Good for you. :)

--Winston

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Winston

1) It won't be illegal. Nobody 'conspires' to install doorknobs, for example. 2) By the time legal status is determined, it will be considered a necessary evil.

Thanks for helping me understand this issue.

--Winston

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Winston

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Adey demonstrated that modulated non-ionizing radiation can replace legitimate interneural brain communication with 'garbage input', likely to tax and confuse the unfortunate owner of said brain. That is a key takeaway.

And a high GHz beam can be sufficiently spread limited with a very small dish.

Resonance is not necessary. Dr. Adey showed that the indicator of calcium efflux was caused by modulated non-ionizing radiation.

That isn't necessary or feasible largely due to the inverse cube nature of magnetic power density.

A reference! Thank you!

--Winston

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Winston

To warm the outer surface of the noggin by a fraction of a degree -

9mW isn't a lot of heat and heads are tolerably large radiators.

To produce any electrical activity inside the brain? Almost certainly not.

How? All you have cited is antiquated late 1970's work. It was crap when I saw it when it was first published, and it is still crap.

With good reason.

Show some persuasive evidence, or continue to look like someone with an over-active imagination and little grasp of reality

I have too much of my career looking at nonsense proposals, and yours does fit the profile.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Bill Sloman

One that presumably doesn't contain active trade unions, for a start.

You are out of your mind. The "nailer" is the disgrunteled employee who uses your mythical electro-magneitc weapon to "nail" the manager

Not a myth, but a comic-book hero, and totally irrelevant here.

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That may be your idea of a high profile case. People with a better grip on reality would differ.

The Clinton administration went after Microsoft.

For which implausible claim you advance what evidence?

If we use your over-fertile imagination as a test-bed.

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Stick somebody elses head in a microwave and disable the door safety interlock, and you will find out that your action is considered both immoral and in poor taste.

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The humour resides in your belief that you are describing a practicable system.

Drug dealers sell drugs that are grown and imported illegally. Your business couldn't support an "off the books" electronic inustry.

Your financial records - notably payments for electronic hardware - would give the game away.

Imaginary fact by invented misconception.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Falling over in a restaurant? The normal sober customer would find that odd? Finding their wallet missing?

Other customers are likely to notice the behavioural changes that your imaginary weapon would produce if it worked. Witness reports do count as evidence.

A sufficently powerful electromagnetic field will stop mobile phones from working (by saturating the input stage of the recever). Even FBI officers carry this sort of equipment.

But he will appreciate that it is both unexpected and odd.

You'd be surprised how many laws there are, and how creative the police can be in interpeting them when they feel that they are being played for a sucker.

If I directed enough microwave energy at you to heat your skin and encourage cataract formation in the lens of your eyes,I don't think you'd have much trouble getting me prosecuted for assault - the law doesn't talk about weapons as such, but effects. Englsih law distinguishes betweeen assault, which cases the victim to feel threatened, and grievous bodily harm, where the victimn is demonstrably damaged.

But not to spray the rest of his customers with microwaves or shot-gun pellets or whatever other collatoral damage.

More a downhill slide.

And stopping mobile phomes from working over a wide area?

Only if you want to fry the victim's scalp, which is all

Dream on.

It is a feasible form of assault, just hopelessly expensive for the effect created.

If a "packaged system" could ever create the effect you have dreamed up.

It doesn't seem to have disinfected you into silence.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Except it doesn't work in "real life" in any acute form.

In a geomagnetic field, which he did not take note of. That's why such effects only occur for relatively low power RF. Larger RF inputs swamp it.

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It's a survey of the kinds of effects that interest you. Including ones you have never heard of.

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He's generally thinking of this (google keywords) "calcium ion cyclotron resonance" eg

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He would miscalculate the power levels, and fry what litte is left of his brain.

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