Lunacy from Brussels

It's less of a problem if you are hitting it with nukes.

Uh ?

What programs to fix planet earth do you refer to ?

There have been a few attempts to mildy mitigate the damage being caused but none that really address the fundamental issues head-on

And calling ppl with liberal viewpoints 'weenies' is plain silly and shows a blinkered mindset. It just encourages the liberals to call those on the right wing rednecks. You degrade your argument by resorting to name calling.

Graham

Plenty of water around Jupiter and easy transport.

: : :"Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie" wrote: : :> On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 05:09:25 -0700, bombardmentforce wrote: :>

:> >>Europeons can't even get their heads around the idea of bringing :> >>a country with a rather well educated populace, like Iraq, back into civilization :> >

:> > By making Mars part of the American Frontier, we exclude the Europeans :> > and their fading civilization. :>

:> YEah - we're all out of territory to conquer on Earth, except the polar :> caps and the bottoms of the ocean, and nobody cares about them anyway. :>

:> But don't you remember back in the good ol' cold war days when it was :> easy to tell who the "bad guys" were - space was touted as "the ultimate :> high ground" or something. :>

:> So, there's only one way left to go, and that's up - and it's got a :> lot better visibility than igloos and submarines. ;-) : :This is the funny thing about Americans. The assumotion that there is always some new :frontier to be subdued and conquered. : :The reality is that we're stuck with planet Earth.

Yeah, I can see you as the New World starts to open up, arguing that there's nothing over there and we should just admit that we're stuck with Europe.

:When that gets into some ppls' brain then maybe we'll start treating this planet better :instead of simply looking for another one to trash.

The funny thing is that one would expect you to be massively in favour of space exploration, given the preceding. After all, the best way to reduce pollution here on Earth is to move the polluting industries out.

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Well, you said "easy". I certainly don't consider getting there "easy", much less think that getting a usefull size rock back as "easy". What could be on an asteroid that would be worth that much "easy"? What is

True, but still at 10x better than anything that exists today.

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I'm not in the asteroid belt yet.

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Oh, without free oxygen. Good idea! What can I do to help?

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Carbon compounts, metals. I'm not talking about getting anything back to earth, but living in the asteroid belt.

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Hence the easy transport of water from Jupiter space.

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Oh, that's a wunnerfull idea. Jupiter is just such a small gravity hole to lift something as light as water out of. Sheesh!

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Only if going in close. Jupiter's moons would be easy enough.

And we already have a spot in the desert that's been nuked, so everything for hundreds of miles around is already dead, so there's no problem with the launch pad, right? ;-P

Thanks! Rich

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You are aware that the human body isn't intended to live in zero gravity aren't you ( muscle wastage etc ).

I rather expect that living in the asteroid belt would be accompanied by some rather serious psychological problems too.

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You know, this drivel makes you look like a real classic netloon.

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I expect he reckons the atomic rockets will provide free power !

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Hey !

I thought you reckoned this space exploration stuff was a good idea ?

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I do, and I think it's ridiculous ludditism to have such paranoia of nuclear-powered rockets.

For launch to orbit, you'd use the kind that just has a hot reactor, so your reaction mass is just steam or something, and put the radiation in space, which is already full of it. :-)

Cheers! Rich