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Yeah, and my favorite part was when the little robot got his foot caught in some robot-foot-sized trap in the hull plating or catwalk or whatever it was, and got blown off the ship by whatever the f*ck it is that can blow you off the surface of an interplanetary vessel, Bruce Dern lectured the other two robots about "carelessness."

Boy, there's some science for you!

Ever seen that one, "Dark Star", I think, with the philosophical bombs? %-}

Thanks, Rich

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Such arguments weren't however made by ppl who knew about science.

There is no possible protection from meteoroid hits than can be offered to a spacecraft. A long jouney is likely as safe as walking through a minefield.

Graham

I think it's more accurate to say that Einstein 'conceived' the A-bomb.

It's invention was at Los Alamos.

No idea.

Graham

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The Pilgrims actually.

Graham

I *have* been reading the posts. Instead of playing 'cute' , do you actually have a useful point to make ?

Graham

But at least many basic resources are readily available undersea. Beats a vacuum.

Graham

That says more about Hollywood than too much else ! ;-)

Graham

Ever seen Silent Running ?

When we can make spacecraft the size of ocean liners you may have a point. I'd like to know how many ppl they could support though. Probably not a lot.

Science fiction is indeed fiction.

My bet would be on MREs for early space exploration though ( if there ever is any ).

Graham

You left out: Draft: -273 miles. ;-D

Cheers! Rich

We could do it quite rapidly if the need arose. Project Orion. In the early 1960s Kennedy rejected the plan put before him by the US military for a spacegoing battleship weighing thousands of tonnes with a crew of 200.

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Instead of worrying about d*****ad space frontiers, the human race could do a hell of a lot more good by fixing a few things on planet earth before exporting the concept of mismanaging resources outside our own system.

Since space exploration will require self-sufficiency - perhaps practice it here first ?

Graham

They rejected the Orion because it requires fission bombs for its engine (just little bitty ones, but there's a certain minimum for any useful output, if I understand accurately.) I went googling for Nerva the other day, however, and apparently the idea is still alive.

They did use one (Orion - type; I've also heard the term "Dumbo" used) in the battle scene in "Footfall" by Niven and Pournelle; It was a very heroic climax. %-)

Cheers! Rich

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If there's no way back, your point is moot.

A few hundred million miles won't get you far btw.

The sun is a mere 150 million km from the earth for instance.

Since there's no planet in our own solar sytem capable of supporting life, the minimum distance required to travel to find anywhere else is to the next solar system. You are now talking light years of distance each of which is ~ 9.4 trillion ( 10^12 ) km.

Here are some nearby stars.

The nearest is 39480000000000 km away. To get there in 10 yrs will *only* need a craft capable of 450 million km/hr ! That's about warp 0.4 btw to use trekkie talk.

Graham

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Exactly (like the "flat Earth").

Rather like those who said that traveling faster than sound was "impossible". The problem is the scientists already knew that bullets (3006, in particular) were supersonic. Problem solved; make the aircraft (X1) look like a bullet.

Tell zwsdotcom to show Newton and Einstein wrong, and then we can talk about Captain Kirk orbiting Uranus.

Why? It won't be altered much.

Again, challenge the Kirks to find new laws that will allow such things. If they can't, STFU. To reverse what you've said, this is a science problem. Engineering ain't up to the task.

The "Biosphere" didn't work, even on TF with unlimited external power. What makes anyone think it would work with no external power?

Some don't learn science, so live in fiction.

Mars might eb "interesting", but that's all.

Not super-human at all. Simple logic, with a small pinch of science. OTOH, your understanding of the universe is quite limited.

Huh? If you want to pay to go into space, just wait for the next comet with a jug of J&J kool-aid. No problem!

I also forget to call you a trolling know-nothing idiotic twat !

Graham

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If I thought you could understand it I might take the time. But you do provide some light entertainment on a quiet weekend.

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No.

Those statements were made by the technophobes of the day.

Scientists already knew such daft stuff wasn't so.

The 'law of nature' of interest relates to kinetic energy.

Why not calculate the impact energy of a golfball sized piece of rock @ 450 million km/hr ?

It's not something where the experiment needs to be done. The answer is already known. No new laws are there to be found. Interplanetery travel is simply a large engineering task

- not science at all.

Graham