HP Rant & Open mic for suggestions on how to kill an PSC2210 all-in-one printer

Mar 30, 2011 52 Replies

Ok, i'll bite, probably for more than he paid for it, right ? :-).

Sad about hp. How the mighty have fallen. I don't buy any modern hp printers. The P suffix models are "personal" whatever that means but they are the worst in terms of plasticicity. I got rid my 1987 vintage, bought new, still working lj2 because of memory limitations, then ran lj4's for years. Still have a 4 for a spare, but the family now has an lj5 for text and it just works. The lab has an lj5000n - need A3 for the cad stuff. The lj5000 is a very good printer and low cost now.

The cheap chinese roller kits from ebay work wonders for the old lj series, like having a new printer in terms of paper feed. It's about the only thing that ever wears out...

Regards,

Chris

I've been running an hp LaserJet P2015dn (double-sided printing, networked) for years without issue... knock on wood. ...Jim Thompson

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You might be able to re-set the ink cartridge. I stumbled across a you tube (?) entry that shows stuffing a wire into a hole in the back of the cartridge to make the cartridge "think" it was full. Wish I could remember where I saw it.

Aha! Found it:

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Ed

Good one, thanks.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 email: hobbs (atsign) electrooptical (period) net http://electrooptical.net

I just buy high-yield cartridges of eBay. They're all cheap and interchangeable for those old Canon print engines.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 email: hobbs (atsign) electrooptical (period) net http://electrooptical.net

Hard drives are better, and so is the video form factor on the original site:

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Build a giant backyard 'mousetrap' and make it the final star as it rolls over a 'roadside device' on a Tonka toy and gets 'blowed up real good!' then sits there and burns.

I think I can nearly pinpoint the death of HP as a useful maker of printers. I have some LaserJet 4000's - they work fine and print inexpensively. I some LaserJet 4200's which have print quality issues on a regular basis, and have since they were in warranty (about which, hands were waved, more or less.) They have also needed new fusers which the 4000's have not. I don't know about 4100's, but somewhere between

4000 and 4200 is when they started to get useless.

All-in-ones of any sort are anathema.

Brother laserprinters are expensive to feed, based on the ones I have had. Separate cartridge and drum - cartridge costs as much as a drum-in cartridge for the 4000 (which also goes about 3000 pages more), drum costs more than the printer did in the first place. They also love to print error pages and don't retain the setting not to print error pages, hundreds at a time, probably because of their knock-off postscript emulation.

Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

I have an HP DJ 9650 (19" form factor). The difference between it and Epson is that the HP gives you new ink jet heads each time you replace the cartridge.

It too stops all print jobs, even though only one is out. With the HP, (at least this old beast), one can either tell it you replaced it in the software, or pull and re-seat the cartridges and fool the hardware for a few more print jobs.

I do not think their current print engines use that paradigm (heads on the cartridge). I do not know, though. This thing has lasted for years.

All of my Epsons have dried out and would take al lot of "clean heads" waste cycles to clear, if ever. (they are older by far though).

I am sure that Epson's new print engines are a lot better than those of the old days as well.

I can still remember standing at the dot matrix, waiting for a print job to finish.

I can still remember going to "Burroughs Computer" in Cincinnati, way back in '76, and seeing their "Santa and reindeer" 12 foot long line printer output, which they were so proud of.

Be sure to use your own, so you can also 'Oooh... feel' what it is like to foot the repair bill when you break it.

Some 'kitchen tools' and small sets of bicycle tools are good 'all-in-one' candidates.

Your IQ assessment just dropped from 30 to 10.

Late at night, by candle light, mpm penned this immortal opus:

A hand grenade or two should do the job.

- YD.

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Late at night, by candle light, Phil Hobbs penned this immortal opus:

I've been using an Epson CX3500 multi for several years now and well pleased. It gripes when a cart runs low but lets me print until the counter gets to zero, or however it measures consumption. With the fixed head it's not a good idea to let it run completely dry. The carts are cheap enough not to bother with remanufactures or home reloading.

- YD.

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No doubt AlwaysWrong would spend hours hassling with the warranty return. Afterall, his time is worth nothing.

Double sided would be usefull, but don't do that much printing. The duplex units are avaiable for the lj4, 5 and the 5000, so it's an still option for the future if I need it. Colour would also be nice, but only really for the family.

The 2015dn looks ok though and the fact that it weighs ~25 lbs tells it's own story. The lj5 weighs 37 and the 5000, 71 lbs. The 5000 was the most compact laserjet that I could find that would do A3 and at a sane price. I generally buy s/h corporate quality printers with low page count on the basis that there will be plenty of life left in them. Much cheaper than new and better engineered to start with. Some of those machines are designed for 100k pages per month, so if you buy one with

50k pages on the counter, it's barely run in even if it's years old...

Regards,

Chris

"So we packed it up and sent it to HP..."

Yeah, you really know a lot about what time is worth, asswipe.

Bwuahahahahahahahahahahaha!

It still exceeds yours, Dimbulb.

Sending it back took all of 5 minutes and a few bucks. We decided it was worth it to point out to HP that they were producing junk and that we would have no more of it.

The warranty hassle would have taken longer and we were still looking at possible failure of below average product after repair.

We had a new printer (different mfr) in and operating within hours.

But, I don't really need to explain things to you, a pimple on the ass of mankind.

And how well do they print, Dimbulb?

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