Horowitz-Hill: Serious scholarly query

I'm having troubling finding the reference to the philosophers (Cheech and Chong) I am searching for.

Anyways, there are a number of circumstances where stupid peasants (such as myself) are given repeated excuses, and until we are gaging from having it shoved down our throats, we just don't get what it is.

Government tells us its going to give us something - while raising our taxes and corruptly squandering our money. They tell us they are going to make us more secure, while violating our rights, violating our privacy, and coercing us, enslaving us.

Religions promise us salvation, while telling us, if we are really, really saved, we will be giving away our money to the church, serving anyone but ourselves, forgiving anyone who offends us while not questioning why we are being punished like children by church and government authorities.

Yet like the fools Cheech and Chong depict, we refuse to believe our senses until in the end, when the predators are ripping out our entrails, we can't deny the reality.

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Scott Stephens
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The binding on my first edition is just fine. It was nice to read when I bought it and to dip into it now and then when I want to make something

- so I would prefer a paperback edition.

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richard mullens

I read in sci.electronics.design that Clarence_A wrote (in ) about 'Horowitz-Hill: Serious scholarly query', on Sun, 26 Dec 2004:

Metres per gnat?

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John Woodgate

There is no circular arguments in the Darwinian axioms. They are, that a trait can be replicated, a trait can be selected, and a trait can be generated. These are statements of required properties of objects, none of which depends on the other. Either something has these properties or they don't. If they do, they will undergo a Darwinian process. If they don't, a Darwinian process cant be applied to such objects.

The essentials are standard Darwin, but I have just described it in different detail and more clearly shown how the same principle is applied to memes in a more general way. I have also added a few new bits here and there.

In what way?

Not at all. Maybe you are unaware of just how much work has been done on Darwinian algorithms in general. For example, electronic circuit topologies gave been generated showing just how powerful the Darwinian process is. Look up "Genetic algorithms", then try and convince yourself that the process don't work.

Just exactly what do you claim is circular?

and you've

And what "missing links" would these be? No idea what you meen by being "linear".

It still seems that you are not very well informed about the extensive confirmation of evolution.

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Its a no contest. We are machines that have evolved blindly. The universe is pretty much how it appears to be. That is, there are no ghosts, goblins, Thors, Zeus's, gods, goblins, pixies elves, pink unicorns etc. We have a very simply natual process that can, in principle, explain how we come about. Why then, look for a supernatual one one?

Not at all. I have described a situation that exploits *all* of the 3 axioms of Darwinism. Random generation of the colours (traits), the selection of such colours, and the replication of such colours into offspring. This is de-facto evolution.

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Kevin Aylward

You obviouly don't use it as much as I use mine.

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Guy Macon

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My copy of S. W. Golomb's _Shift_Register_Sequences_ is copyright 1967, and his reference list goes back to 1801 (abstract algebraic theoretical underpinnings), with obviously applicable references to 1953.

I happened upon Golomb's book while researching background material on that same HP Journal article (for other purposes), which described a pseudorandom-modulated probe signal that increased the range and accuracy of one of their time-lapse-detection fiber optic test equipments.

I, too, seem to have lost the original hpj article and all direct references to it.

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John Perry

I'm sure that you're right - Mostly I just make the occasional device with a microcontroller (AVR).

I guess that there is a spectrum of usage - and for some a paperback edition would be just fine (and more to the point cheaper !)

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richard mullens

I think the mass and basic aerodynamics are about right for that, but it is another reason to consider stronger spines.

I agree about the binding getting stressed by those of us who find it a good practical reference (even if never flung toward those that might need educating).

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xray

If there came to be an AOE web page, there could be a forum for these kinds of questions and ideas categorized to some (evolving) extent. Might be a FAQ or file section which tracks (among other things) the suggestions for current nifty parts.

I realise that would take some work by people -- authors probably should monitor the general flow -- but volunteers might (one can hope) monitor some of the latest decent suggestions for parts or updates.

I know it would be more work than the most optomistic initial guess, but even done badly it might be better than no forum (or the default noisy version here).

Just some thoughts for consideration. It could even be done before the next release of an AOE update, if people or publishers were so inclined.

I know of at least one forum for software that I purchased (video editing) that stays mostly on focus, and users provide the majority of information for general questions posted there. In this idealized web portal as I suggest, and even the existing one I just mentioned, the hardest part is taking the best information and condensing it in a summary location. The idea that comes to mind is the files section for Yahoo groups or FAQs for certain newsgroups.

Ok, enough propositions. It would be great to see something like this evolve around AoE.

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xray

We have created AoE web pages,

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but they doesn't have a user-comment engine. Just an email address, which points to my mailbox at work. We do keep and use the comments and suggestions which arrive there. And I try to answer most email.

[ snip good web-page suggestions... ]

It would, do you have a suggestion for forum software?

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Winfield Hill

Unless they were neurotic loonies already.

John

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John Larkin

Good one!

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Clarence_A

The original source for the pseudorandom sequences used in the TTL and CMOS cookbooks and the psyctone was E.J Watson's listing in Mathematical Computing 16, 1962 pages 368-369.

I thought everyone knew that.

The PsycTone came about at Goodyear Aerospace when a cubical mate was applying these sequences to a multi-million dollar aerospace project and I told him I thought I could make them squawk.

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Don Lancaster

Why not simply an AoE newsgroup? Personally I despise forums because of their klutzy navigation. No matter how you do it, you'll need to have a moderator to keep out the Burridge-type riff-raff ;-)

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Jim Thompson

Depend on what you want to do, of course.

I really like phpBB2. Here's an example of what it looks like (from their own forums)

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There is also the Wiki concept (TikiWiki and PhpWiki.)

Most of the hosting companies these days offer those as standard options, installable with a few clicks. I believe they use a MySQL database.

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Spehro Pefhany

There are bacteria that have little spiral corkscrew-like propellers poking out their ends, and they literally spin to push the critters through the water.

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John Larkin

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:44:12 -0700 in sci.electronics.design, Don Lancaster wrote,

My copies of the TTL and CMOS cookbooks appear to be the editions without the bibliography.

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David Harmon

Usenet newsgroups with newsreaders are an efficient and effective way to create a forum. As for an AoE newsgroup, we have one right here! The primary thing that's lacking is a topic-oriented archive engine.

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Winfield Hill

I'm telling you that you'll only be on this planet for a very short time, that it's a beautiful and interesting place, and unless you're starving or in severe pain or literally enslaved (which you certainly aren't... no slaveowner would let out of the cotton fields long enough to post extended whining essays to a newsgoup) it's not hard to find ways to appreciate it.

Go design something. That always makes me feel good.

John

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John Larkin

I'll reciprocate. One good turn deserves another.

Those whom men would destroy, they assault in the name of their god.

You'll probably call me paranoid, I'm taking that comment as an insinuation I'm a neurotic loony. And perhaps I'm foolish wasting my time seeking satisfaction cursing the darkness here when I should be lighting my own candles. A sick attempt to feel "moral" sharing self esteem I altruistically loan others to repay me. Christians and socialists demand that form of self sacrifice "morality".

But I know the true form of madness they practice.

Madness asks if God (or Karma) sent or permitted a Tsunami to kill thousands of people because they're wicked sinners.

Madness denies the objective purpose to life implicit in theism, while blaming "Global Warming", man's mind and technology, for environmental changes with the same self-loathing guilt of corrupt theists.

Watch and see; By one weeks time, atheists and theists alike will be blaming man for disaster; one mob will be demanding tithe and sacrifice in the name of a vengeful God, the other mob demanding taxes and sacrifice for politicians and college professors. Both mobs will soon be holding up festering corpses as excuses to plunder more than share.

Madness is corruption of rationality based on the politics of blame and shame, the abuse of creativity not to discover causality, but to invent politically correct excuses.

And calling your political opponents loony if they don't buy your rationale.

Now speaking of neurotic loonies, you may want to get a checkup yourself. You seem to have a hangup rationalizing tolerance of one evil by that of another, a corollary of the codependency trait:

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As evidence I site at least one prior correspondence we've had, I think there are several others. Here you are telling me I shouldn't mind being enslaved as long as there is some Indonesian peasant poorer and more miserable than I. An obvious case of irrational context-dropping on your part.

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Scott Stephens

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