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In that scenario it's presumably meant to be the knife holder that started it. You got 3 options: Run away Fight back Be a victim A weapon gives you option 2. Of course it's not always a good option. And sometimes it's the only realistic option.

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I think you're implying *way* too much into a posed magazine cover shot, Win! That aside, these weapons are grouped alongside semi-automatic full bore pistols under the firearms regulations of many European countries including the UK, so although you and I made similar things as kids back in the good old days 50 years ago and thought nothing of it, they're now likely to attract a mandatory minimum 5 year prison sentence for mere possession (in Yurp anyway). For that reason alone, I don't assist anyone in any way asking for plans to make such a device.

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"So that you may understand the danger inherent in the stun gun, let's discuss the physiological effects first. When a high voltage is discharged on the surface of the skin, the current produced travels through the nervous system by exciting single cells and the myelin sheaths that enclose them. When that current reaches a synapse connected to a muscle. it causes the muscle to contract violently and possibly to go into spasms."

Holy shit, what is this publication, Practical Electronics for Dr. Mengele-magazine?

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bitrex

Handheld stun guns are next to useless as defensive weapons in the hands of anyone but trained LEO.

pepper spray is cheap and much more effective defensive wepaon in the non-lethal category.

I'd assume anyone asking how to build them has criminal intent until proven otherwise.

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bitrex

The most important option is the unlisted "option zero" but the one real world self-defense classes that are worth anything focus on a lot: don't put yourself in situations where certain things are liable to happen.

There are many situations you can get into when you're alone that there are no real good answers for no matter what you're armed with.

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bitrex

Does that also go for high school kids asking how to build a nuclear bomb?

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Nah. Abstract questions about things unrealistic for any high school student to actually build aren't particularly concerning. Or a question like "how does a stun gun work?" same deal.

A high school student asking for concrete advice on e.g. how to electrically detonate blasting caps, or what ratio of ammonium nitrate/fuel oil is best for reliable detonation would be more so.

The OP's question wasn't abstract.

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bitrex

It's a judgment call as to whether someone is asking for the sake of simply learning, or like they want to actually construct something as quickly as possible and have no real interest in the technological principles behind its operation.

The former is fine, even admirable. There's nothing intrinsically "wrong" or dangerous about wanting to learn about the operating principles of things, even weapons. I don't believe in "security through obscurity."

However the second is a red flag and it's worth wondering why anyone would want to build something in such haste that they can't even be bothered to learn that some types of parts are interchangeable and probably non-critical.

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bitrex

arted it. You got 3 options:

And sometimes it's the only realistic option.

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It also wasn't criminal. Presently criminal intent by itself is not illega l. You seem to want to outlaw knowledge. Would you also make it illegal f or anyone to answer the question? How would you define the level of detail so that such a law could be enforced without being arbitrary? "I know it when I see it".

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More than a "judgement call", it would require you to be a mind reader.

Presently laws against stun guns (tasers) are jurisdictional. I believe in the entire state of California they are legal for adults to own and carry and oddly enough, to obtain plans for building. Go figure...

Most other states have not outlawed them. But you want outlaw learning about them.

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Rick C

In the real world people aren't always reasonable. Just the other day I had someone escalate from absolutely nothing. Just a nutcase.

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tabbypurr

it already is

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tabbypurr

It's rare, but I suppose it happens occasionally. Most of the time though it takes two "nutcases" to escalate. The vast majority of random interpersonal conflict that escalates to violence, that didn't start out violent, was because someone didn't back down or walk away or otherwise eject.

Most street fights and night club shootings aren't between an asshole and an innocent party, they're between two assholes, and sometimes one asshole ends up dead. How'd that song go? You had to be the big shot, did ya, you had to open up your mouth. You had to have the last word, last night....

95% of self-defense is the art of de-escalating and backing down. because in any real-world combat situation the odds are generally stacked against you and even with training with a weapon or hand to hand fighting it only reduces the chances of death or serious injury from almost assured to 50-50. Honest personal defense courses don't go over well at all with people who just want to be "hard" because it's not what the material is about, and honest personal defense trainers are glad to be rid of those people because a lot of them end up casualties sooner or later.
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bitrex

Additionally, how people respond to being told "No" tells you a lot more about their motivations than how they respond to being told "Yes"

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bitrex

I'm not talking about wanting any new law or outlawing anything I'm talking about one's own personal behavior and standards.

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bitrex

At the very least I don't go walking myself into situations that feel like set-ups even if the chances are extremely low that they are. It's not zero.

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bitrex

a fair bit also happens between one asshole and innocent bystanders. Some like to blame others for their problems. Some professions suffer from this often.

I've always found 99% of self defence to be verbal. Funny that self defence courses seldom teach that.

There's a time to show hardness and a time to avoid the temptation.

NT

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