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May 14, 2012 191 Replies

The DC output is rock-steady. So I don't know what you mean by "unstable."

It _does_ have too much gain

Not mine, either. The wall-plug power of the laser that I'm controlling is about a megawatt.

It can't be wrong, because it does what it was designed to do, and works fine.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

From his demeanor, over the years, I think he came from lowly lineage, had an abusive upbringing, and has a driving need to prove that he's no one's underling, so he retaliates with whatever force he thinks is required to unhorse his critics. Consequently, instead of accepting correction or criticism, when it's valid, he lashes out with all sorts of machinations designed to discredit the critic.

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I am sure if you even get it out of the hole, we'll never hear the end of it.

Jamie

What does that mean? Are you descended from nobility? If so, should we care?

Absolutely not.

and has a driving need to prove that he's

Well, I've always been unmanagible, but now I have my own company, so I get to work three times as hard doing what I have to do.

I've never been anyone's "underling."

so he retaliates with whatever force he thinks is

The LDO works fine, exactly as intended. The whole board works fine.

Why don't you design a voltage regulator that we can review? 1.5 volts in, 1.2 volts out, half an amp maybe. Go for it.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com http://www.highlandtechnology.com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom laser drivers and controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

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NOLA Trailer Trash ;-) ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

You and Fields are cackling old hens. You want to my-o-my about personalities and don't say anything about electronics.

Design a 1.5 to 1.2 volt LDO that meets your noble, aristocratic standards. Post it, presumably with your redneck family coat of arms on the schematic.

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

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Yeah, he's been milking his thermistor-based temperature controller for a decade or so. That seems to be the high point of his life, so far.

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

Damn! Gotcha so low, you're having to steal invective from Slowman ;-) Hee! Hee! Hee! ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Design a regulator, gramps. And don't just copy mine. Do something original, if you can remember what that's like.

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

Basically, that you're the offspring of white trash.

Why should we bother? It's apparent that you just want to fight instead of talking about electronics in a friendly way so, in deference to those of us who enjoy discussing circuits, why don't you just run your business and get the hell out of Dodge?

Bloody hell slowman. CV is for professors, not for working folks, = rewrite the thing as a resume and hide the DOB. Either that of go back to trying to be a professor.

I offered my LDO to the group in the most friendly way, and your heart-throb didn't approve. So let's see if he can do anything but cackling.

I doubt it. He's almost as electronically helpless as you are.

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

This week? Three manuals, checking one PCB layout, testing some SMB connectors, and one fun thing, trying to tune my new pulse generator.

How's this?

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The next version needs more swing, 6 or 7 volts maybe, enough to drive an e/o modulator directly.

Up to the age of about 12, sort of. Not after that. But even as a kid I wasn't an "underling."

No circuits from you, sounds like.

Gutless.

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators Custom timing and laser controllers Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

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We did publish quite a bit about the design, but nobody cites it - the publications were produced early on, to whet customer interest, and don't contain anything in the way of experimental results. We should have been able to publish some interesting results from the prototype, but we would have needed to co-opt a potential customer with some kind of interesting integrated circuit that needed testing. At that stage of the project the creep in charge had decided that he wanted to go off and start up his own company, and was spending all his time working on that, rather than persuading potential customers to come in and play with the prototype.

I bitched about the absence of potential customers to Cambridge Instruments managing director once or twice, in reaction to passing comments about the fact that we'd got the machine working. He may have got the message - I had enough contact with him that that sort comment wouldn't have been unexpected, but there's no way that he'd have given me any kind of reaction.

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Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.

It's not my problem.

But I have a solution for your intransigence:

All around the world (even in Japan and India, as lurkers here have provided amusing video links) university professors use my standard product ASIC designs as teaching examples because they are perfect examples of the mathematical and structural symmetry necessary to get properly working circuits, in spite of lousy absolute process tolerances. (The real reason my first OpAmp design still sells... while low gain, ~6K, it's rock solid, come hell or high water.)

Since you posted your aberration publicly I will pass it (and all future Larkin aberrations) along to those professors to use as examples of bad design/tweaks required/don't "design" this way.

Enjoy ;-) ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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