finally lost their minds

Tell them they have my moral support. I'd also be very unhappy with this kind of chip, especially when considering the narrow gaps between the power connections and peripheral pins. Just like I am not a fan of BGA, seen too much grief there.

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What is the big deal? Did they throw a hissy fit when you showed them your first BGA?

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No, but they ran out and bought a bunch of desoldering IR+hot air workstations, and a mini-stencil system, and a cool optical stage split-image video thing for dropping the replacement FPGA exactly down onto the board. And they've never used any of it, because our FPGA placement/soldering/electrical operation yield so far is 100%.

But you'd figure on blowing up switching regs now and then.

Incidentally, on that chip, the pins that are very close to the power pads are the same voltages, so shorts there don't matter.

I'm not sure if you're supposed to sink heat out of all three power pads. That could get messy.

I wonder if they've bonded discrete fets to two of those pads, and the IC to the third? Maybe I'll bust one open and see.

John

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Cack, Jim. Just tap the "H" key and see for yourself, Mozilla 4.0 or a variant.

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Here's what Agent shows as your headers. I don't see Mozilla in there anywhere. What character set are you using? My reader is set at us-ascii, utf-8

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I second that. After owning a Toyota station wagon I bought a sedan. Bringing something big is out of the question. Fortunately my wife bought a hatch-back. I wanted to trade my car for a Volvo station wagon, but so far no luck. On the other hand, the Volvo would have sucked my wallet empty by now :-)

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Jim Thomps>What's with all the "?" marks above in the quoted text?

Too stubborn to read posts with his username in the Subject line.

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Google Groups.

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You missed your target again. Check an mpm post.

7-bit ascii for me like the headers say.

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It wasn't you who said, "Cack, Jim. Just tap the "H" key and see for yourself, Mozilla 4.0 or a variant."??

I take it you really meant to say it wasn't your reader that put all the ??? in there.

...Jim Thompson

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Correct. I have not observed that behavior from agent, or other news clients i have used, but saw the ?? within others replies.