fakery (2023 Update)

On a sunny day (Thu, 30 Sep 2021 11:19:24 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Blue screen (called chroma key here) is 40 years old at least

Most news readers on TV have it as background. TV plays are made with it. Nothing new.

Maybe artificial actors, and later you will find that beautiful girl with great PCB layout skills you just hired needed an oil update and her battery recharged (not figuratively speaking),

It is all fake, it is just art.

I am sure Big Brothel uses bots to force people to do things like getting shot with blood clots causing covid vaccines Bots to get them to enlist to die for Uncle Tom (or was it Sammy) in senseless wars. Bots to manipulate them to pay taxes.

OTOH it has always been that way,

Nothing new, there.

You never created fake corporate letterhead when in school?

Or, a fake newspaper "front page"?

Never heard a good impressionist? Watched *him* speak while your ears "think otherwise"?

With a few hours of speech samples, I can build a synthesizer that could "pass" for you (short phrases as prosody is hard to get right in unconstrained speech).

So, efforts that were previously "easy" (by today's standards;

40 years ago, you needed access to specific resources to typeset a full sheet of newsprint!) for humans to accomplish are now easy for machines to do. Sounds pretty much like one would *expect*.

Wait until we hear of adaptive fingerprints and shaker bottles full of DNA samples... (e.g., Stross?)

John Larkin left out fake electronic designers. Maybe he thinks his imagined design skills are real?

He also left out fake climate scientists - which is strange when his favourite authority - Anthony Watts' - highest level of education in the subject was as being an unqualified TV weatherman for a while.

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Nearly all are color assigned. But the colors are real. Real colors assigned. It is not easy to depict something seen in a band we are not able to see, therefore VISIBLE colors are "assigned".

And exaclty ZERO of NASA images are "artists impressions". And any they publish that are are declared as such.

You were fake processed at the schools you went to.

I like the new desk(s). Fooled me completely.

RL

Some day? Nah! The main obstacle is legal.

"Deep fakes" have been worrying some people[1] for quite a few years.

[1] historians, SF writers, security/identity industry, etc

Tom Gardner snipped-for-privacy@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in news:sj725m$tfu$1 @dont-email.me:

Bob's yer fake uncle.

What schools did you go to?

(I expect you won't answer that one.)

Here's my new desk.

John Larkin went to Tulane. It taught him so little that he is willing to admit it.

Most people learn a great deal more than they were ever taught at university. In electronics many of them had because most of the good stuff hadn't been invented when they'd left university

Why should he bother? What you know matters a whole lot more than what you were taught, and if you can't learn new stuff from application notes and data sheets you won't last long in electronics. There are other sources of information, and with any luck John will boast about the ones he has discovered all by himself.

Nice Remington. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I don't suppose you remember the interfaced IBM Selectric typewriter. The keyboard codes were generated by a mechanical ROM, and were in parallel switch-contact EBCDIC code. But the print direction was solenoid drives in terms of tilt-rotate of the type ball. Ugly.

After sufficient griping by users, they introduced a new type ball and kb encoder version that used a common, all new, "correspondence code" in both directions. Progress!

Sure I do. My Dad's first IBM PC-1 (128k RAM, dual 160k floppies) used a modified Selectric as a printer. The really cool thing was that you could change fonts by flipping up a latch, replacing the ball, and flipping it back down.

He used to give a lot of talks, so the ball tended to alternate between Courier and Orator fonts. (Orator was really good for reading from a distance.)

Selectrics produced really beautiful output.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Or Greek and Courier balls for technical reports containing "µs" and similar. Never understood how secretaries kept their sanity with such things.

Mind you, handwriting plus physical cut-and-paste demanded a certain thoughtful discipline and brevity which is out of fashion now.

I remember doing conference papers on "camera ready" paper, which were oversize sheets (bigger than legal, smaller than B-size iirc) that you could type on directly or attach text and graphics using rubber cement. They had bluelines to help with margins and alignment, and were probably still being used with

My advisor, the late great Gordon Stanley Kino, had a dedicated word-processing system that could print on that stuff using a 132-column daisywheel carriage, but in his group we normally put Greek letters and math symbols in by hand, at least until we switched over to 512k Macintoshes sometime in 1985/6.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

There was an occupation called "secretary." I used to hand-write manuals and one of them would type it; sort of the way I do schematics now.

It was conventional wisdom, in early PC days, that "you will never get a businessman to type."

There was also one called "computer" :)

Yes indeed; I remember that well.

fredag den 1. oktober 2021 kl. 21.10.29 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:

afaiu a few of the dinosaurs like Trump are scared of email and have their secretary print them, then hand write a response for the secretary type it in

I'm not old-fashioned. I have an electric pencil sharpener and an electric eraser.

But really, CAD schematic entry is a nuisance. I can draw 5x as fast,

200x if new parts have to be created in the library. And I can make little notes and doodles.