Just wondering. Did the stupid European elitists for environmental safety manage to bring Airbus to the ground because of the new standards prohibiting lead in soldered joints? I keep looking at media reports on their demise and keep seeing management at blame, but my gut feeling is the blame is in idiots who think they know more than state of the art science.
Am I wrong?
Wayne
Hello Wayne,
AFAIK most safety critical gear is exempted from RoHS.
Don't know. The latest Monopoly instructions say you have to advance to intelligent before that sort of decision can be made.
DNA
I'd say so. I'm sure 99.9% of all connections are crimped.
Well... there you go, another unintelligent person. With modern technology it's all fly by wire so the proper stuff is spliced.
DNA
Right. Sure. Spliced. That's real easy to do without crimping on a 200 pin plug and socket.
Probably. The reports over here talk about problems with cabling rather than connectors, and I've seen mechanical engineers bollix cabling by making the cable trays too small or forgetting about them altogether.
Gosh, what part of fly by wire failed to... Not much point, is there?
DNA
Yes, they claim to have cabling problems. Cabling in airplanes is never soldered.
BTW, I just read in the news today the EU may extend to within 2000 miles of the US border...
Yup.
Ian
It seems so. How do you 'splice' connections to a fuse, a switch, a controller? And why would you splice anything?
Then there were the cowboys who bollixed up the SwissAir entertainment installs and destroyed a plane - and the whole airline.
Probably not, about 99.9% of all connections in A/C are crimped, and it's been that way for 20-30 years. Connections to small parts like switches, CBs and lamps have crimped terminal ends to a screw connection, or the newer crimped pins which then push into the switch body.
Of course, all the avionics will use solder, Pb or Not Pb. While the aerospace industry can claim some exemptions, that's SFA use if you can no longer get the Pb parts.
Barry Lennox
I suppose it has something to do with flying by wire......
DNA
So what? You pray over the wire? Wave it like a magic wand?
Sorry, which subsection of part eight of paragraph 54 are you reading at the moment?
DNA
You seem to have no concept of what flying by wire means. It means flying by hydraulics.
Sure, if you need to piss in your boots to keep your feet warm. Just make sure it's a nice day and landing time is 10 minutes later.
DNA
OK, you've proved you are an idiot. Was this a surprise to anyone?
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:03:50 +1300, Barry Lennox Gave us:
"Soldered joints" refers to circuit boards, not wires and switches with wires attached, dufus.
He was referring to RoHS, and tin problems.
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:35:59 GMT, Joerg wrote in Msg.
Yes, but actually the f*ck-up is only with the interior cabling for light/sound/whatnot. The aviation part works just fine. A friend of a friend who works at Airbus told me that since no two planes are alike, they have some fancy new software for planning all the interior electrics, individually for each aircraft, and indeed that is what seems to choke on the sheer size of the A380.
Stoopid f****rs. They could've known this for a long time but just kept sticking their heads in the sand, German management blaming the French and vice versa. Now they're talking about a EUR4b cut in expenses, probably by laying off thousands of people.
I wonder if the responsible managers who got their asses fired will have to stand in the same line at the welfare office as those workers who have unsuccessfully been trying to get the damn cables in place for months now.
robert
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