Copper theft

I'm so glad he took the time to tell us where the stick came from.

John

So am I. It is a nice touch.

Those fire bases etc were not floating in the air. The US was trying to hold ground. Perhaps it wasn't all of the ground but it was never the less ground being held by "boots on the ground".

We aren't talking about "winning a war". We are talking about punishing the Taliban for supporting OBL and perhaps getting them to turn him over. That is what I said the goal was.

There was no need to completely overthrow them nor to work with the "northern alliance". The US could have picked a different punishment.

Yes and Bush alos pulled out of the Prince Sultan Air Base to try to appease the radicals. It appears that it may worked. The US hasn't been attacked since.

Not really.

Still no concept of history?

They pretty much were. They were built on as inaccessibale a mountain as possible by helicopter and supplied the same way.

You can't really hurt these people much by bombing them, they don't have much to lose and you end up killing more innocent people than those you can prove were terrorists. That makes more terrorists and a stronger resolve to support OBL. You should know that if you a student of UK history. Using the V-1s and V-2s on London was probably one of the worst mistakes of the war for Hitler. It just hardened the Brits and assured they were coming back with a "vengence" of their own. When Sir Arthur "Bomber" Harris was bouncing the rubble in German cities long after they were taken out as military targets the sentiment in UK was fuk'm. Islam felt the same way when the towers fell, larely because we thought we could bomb them with no danger to ourselves.

I do hope that one day those words will come back to haunt you !

Graham

Eh ?

A simple statement of fact. Do you a problem with that ?

Graham

Some years back I recall hearing that the USA refused to take part in an international aid project to bring 'safe drinking water' to communities worldwide.

I reckon there's a decent chance that's true.

Instead the USA is building a new $600 million embassy in Baghdad on a 104 acre plot !

" Irritation grows as residents deprived of air-conditioning and running water three years after the US-led invasion watch the massive US Embassy they call ?George W?s palace? rising from the banks of the Tigris. "

Graham

You're not doing too badly at the shouting down part yourself. Or is it a matter of wearing them down with repeated insults when logic fails?

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It *is* criticism, not hatred. Told you that a couple of times. There are lots of things I admire America for, it *is* a wonderful country with lots of wonderful people, doing wonderful things.

But it is also a country led by terrorists. It's not on my list of visitable places anymore, as long as that situation does not change. Bit of a shame, really.

I was not there but I do wok with someone who was. The base he was in was certainly not on a mountain top.

There are cities in Afghanistan. There are bridges and roads and at least one airport. They also have livestock you could take out with strafing etc. There may be less targets in Afghanistan than Iraq, but you can't say there are none.

The nukes made Japan give up. It doesn't always work like that.

I dispute the notion that "Islam" felt that way. Indonesia is an Islamist state. A lot of people reacted with sympathy and support when the World Trade Center was attacked. This has been squandered since but at that moment, there was a lot of support.

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Enough money has been wasted through incompetence that both restoring the infrastructure and the shiny embassy could have been done. The only qualification you needed to get a high position in the CPA was to be a republican. People with absolutely no experience in an area were given control of large budgets and tasked with what even an expert would find hard.