Climate of Complete Certainty

Sociology. Psychology. Ethnic studies. Climatology.

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Wow, not only does he like being lied to but he'll even help craft the lies he is to be told! A true fan.

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bitrex

Ethnic studies "can't" be a science since there is little if any prediction + falsifiable test.

The others /can/ be science, but there is a large statistical component, and many confounding factors to be taken into account.

Those that don't understand statistics will find that unpalatable.

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Tom Gardner

I'm not a fan of anyone. But it is interesting to have a President who was never a lawyer, never held office before, and got rich *before* he was an elected official.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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John Larkin

You mean Dwight Eisenhower? He's no Dwight Eisenhower that's for sure.

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He got rich because his daddy both financed and then would bail him out.

It is not like Dwight who started from scratch!

DJT is just another shyster. Blue Suede Shoe salesman...

I don't see how having a liar and a cheat in charge of a country is going to do any good for the general population. Unlike China and Russia, democracies usually have protections in place to avoid this sort

of fiasco.

As for the source of personal wealth of various presidents:

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The last sentence of Obama's section is telling :"While he admitted he would save money if he refinanced his mortgage, he said, ?when yo u?re president you have to be a little careful about these transactions.? ?

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John Robertson

The most recent Presidents I can think of that were somewhat legitimate "self-made-men" that were born into at best lower-middle class families were LBJ and Ronald Reagan.

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bitrex

I get the impression DJT was never very naturally good with women or did very well without a billion dollar bankroll behind his propositions.

Therefore I suspect he was never particular good at "sales." Show me a man who can walk into a downtown bar on a Saturday night in T-shirt and jeans with ten dollars in his pocket and walk out with a lovely young lass on his arm four hours later and I'll show you a salesman.

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bitrex

Why not Barak Obama?

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whit3rd

But, climatology DOES have predictive value. Your 'no-proof' criterion still doesn't make much sense (can you prove your assertion of 'unfortunate'? How?) So, the onus is on you to prove that in sociology, 'there is no proof', then go on to at least one other item in your list.

Heck, the moment a world atmosphere model spontaneously developed Hadley cells, climatology had a proof (of the non-mathematical 'evidence shows' type).

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I wonder why John Larkin might think that. The strongest argument against a ssassination is that assassinated leaders get replaced by leaders who have more pronounced examples of the same features.

It's unlikely that assassinating Soleimani saved any lives at all, and even less likely that it will "change the course of Persian history" in any way that might serve the USA. Soleimani had been in the job for some years, an d his successors seem likely to persist in doing what he did.

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Over the country as a whole, three million more voters chose Hillary than T rump.

In the three flyover states that turned out to be crucial, that Russians ha d put in alot of effort of social media to support Triimp and he got about

80,000 more votes than she did in the three states where it actually matter ed.

Trump won by a very thin margin, with Russian help.

What they actually did was offer a couple of bribes to the smaller states. The senate's over-representation of the smaller states does serve a useful purpose, which is why the idea was around for the founding tax evaders to c opy.

The electoral college was a terrible idea - you've only got one president a nd he (or she) has to represent that whole country - and nobody has been si lly enough to copy it.

Alexander Hamilton touted the electoral college as a device to keep people like Trump out of the job. It didn't work, which doesn't make him a very sm art dude.

James Arthur seems to idolise the founders, but the two smartest people who might have contributed to the creation of the constitution - Benjamin Fran klin and Thomas Paine - weren't rich merchants and didn't own lots of land

- so they weren't involved.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman

None that John Larkin can understand. He's got a blind spot when it comes to observational sciences, and presumably doesn't think much of Charles Darwin, or Edwin Hubble.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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That's not a conspiracy theory. The whole debacle has been well publicised.

And the majority in the in the "flyover states" that elected him was about

80,000, and they elected him because they thought he was on their side. Lie s planted on social media by Russian propagandsists did help fuel that delu sion.

John Larkin is strangely reluctant to recall that Trump got roughly three m illion fewer popular votes than Hillary Clinton.

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There's a Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times."

Trump has made life much too "interesting" for comfort. John Larkin doesn't know enough to notice the down-side of being lead by somebody who is almos t as ignorant as he is, and equally unwilling to get his head around an und erstanding any model of the world that is complicate enough to be useful.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman

Fiasco? All you are doing is calling names at a legally elected President.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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John Larkin

Is that what you want in a President?

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
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John Larkin

Obama's biological father was a Harvard grad and government functionary in Kenya, Obama attended private prep schools for most of his life before college, his step-father and his mother had advanced degrees also and AFAIK while his home life may have been "strained" they weren't poor and didn't struggle to put food on the table.

That is to say he experienced prejudice because of race sometimes surely, but he was definitely not raised in a one-farmhouse with five siblings, or in the 'hood like some black men I've known who've over their lives received a huge helping of both racism _and_ class-ism.

So depends on what your bar for "self-made man" is; the (few) actual rags-to-riches stories I'm familiar with don't involve the terms PhD or Harvard with respect to anyone involved

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bitrex

No, I don't particularly want a salesman for President but if we were to have a salesman as President I'd at least want some objective confirmation they had been good at the job! At least some positive Yelp reviews or something.

In any case Trump was in real-estate speculation/finance he was a hustler, sales/marketing not really his department.

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That's what democracy is all about. And Trump certainly deserves quite a lo t of name-calling, even if you can't understand why.

And the Russian intervention in his election wasn't in the least legal. The Mueller report named a number of Russians who would be prosecuted if they were ever silly enough to show up in the US traveling under those names.

He might not have established that Trump colluded in the intervention - and the Russians would have been mad to let him in on it - but the process tha t got Trump into power wasn't flawless.

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