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If you don't live in New York, Sydney, Marseilles or one of a zillion other places on the planet that are directly adjacent to a lovely beach.

Swill

But if their warnings are taken seriously and acted upon?

The global cooling climate change proponents of the nineteen sixties and seventies saw government act to remove from their exhausts those chemicals and particulates that caused planetary cooling.

The by product has been CO2 which causes warming.

Every solution brings with it a new problem.

Swill

They are both popular mistakes. With warfare, only one side needs to make the mistake, because both sides will keep fighting for as long as they think that they can win.

Religion is a similar sort of mistake - somebody who thinks they know what they are talking about decides to insist that they are right and anybody who disagrees with them is not only wrong but also a heretic.

There were no global cooling climate change proponents. The campaign to put SO2 scrubbers in power station smoke stacks was aimed at eliminating acid rain. which was killing conifer forests. That the SO2 was also creating droplets of sulphuric acid in the stratosphere which scatted some sunlight, causing a bit of global cooling wasn't appreciated at the time. Dealing with the ozone hole was similarly climate neutral.

Wrong. CO2 does cause warming, but nothing done to deal with acid rain or the ozone hole has introduced any extra CO2 into the atmosphere. Stopping acid rain let conifer forests take a bit more CO2 out.

Not in this particular case.

John Larkin doesn't believe in sea level rise either. The idea of big ice sheets slipping off into the sea and producing lots a sea level rise quite fast is beyond his comprehension.

There's nothing neurotic about understanding that climate change is real and should be slowed down.

Failing to appreciate that the propaganda that claims that it is not happening comes from the people who make money out of digging up fossil carbon and selling it as fuel is gullible stupidity.

The people who are pushing the propaganda see it as an opportunity to keep on making money and having power for a bit longer.

Gullible stupidity is a mental health problem, but it does not seem to be responsive to therapy.

Hurricane Sandy did it in 2012

There were couple of hurricanes that that hit the New York area in 2017 but the June 19, 2017 remnants of Tropical Storm Cindy don't seem to fit.

Sea level rise - when it happens - depends on lots of ice sliding off the Greenland or west Antarctic ice sheets. The fact that it hasn't happened yet is no guarantee that it isn't going to happen.

It happened quite a lot at the end of the most recent ice age, but the were lots more ice sheets around then.

The choice of deity isn't yours anyway. It gets burned into you from a young age from the environment into which you happen to be born. Every religion claims to be the only right one and they all promise doom to unbelievers. Some religions will help their gods by doing the dooming for him. Those are the worst.

Jeroen Belleman

Actually, a lot of more primitive religions were open to adding new gods and other changes. Even the Romans would add to their religion and was one of the things they found weird about Judaism, one jealous God who did not put up with other Gods. Dave

According to you then it is impossible for moslems to convert to christians, christians to hindi, shinto/buddhist to christian, etc. Anyone claiming otherwise is a liar.

It's an evasion anyway. You're brain is locked because you've denied yourself that most precious of human assets--empathy.

'I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken.'

Of course not, there are always converts, from any creed to any other. But some of them risk their lives in doing so.

Nonsense. Religion doesn't have a monopoly on empathy. Moral sentiments do not derive from religion. With or without it, there are good people and bad people. However, rigid religious convictions can push misguided good people to do evil. We've seen plenty of examples of those.

Jeroen Belleman

Have fun storming the castle!

Swill

He wrote nothing of the kind.

His post seems both empathetic and sympathetic to me.

I don't understand your failure to grok his post.

Swill

Yes. There were.

"On April 28, 1975, Newsweek published an article called, “The Cooling World,” in which writer and science editor, Peter Gwynne, described a significant chilling of the world’s climate, with evidence “accumulating so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it.”"

This prediction turned out to be baseless. Nevertheless, reducing sulphur in auto and coal plant emissions as well as reducing particulates has allowed more solar heating of the surface. Are there no effects from the change in oxides of nitrogen emissions?

Swill