Didn't the Japanese try this? TRON or something.
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It'll be interesting to see if China can do without Intel/AMD. It'll be a very big project, but I can see the logic of it. They can pay for it with the cash they earn from all the worthless crap we insist on buying from them.
The Chinese from China are drilled not to think for themselves. This is just an attempt to try and think for themselves. Not that its a good idea to try and make something completely incompatible in a world where compatibility, interoperability and standards become more important every day.
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In general I agree with you, but I've been amazed at just how quickly software developers were able to crank out ridiculously many thousands of applications for the iPad/iPhone and Android devices -- both of which had significantly different programming models than traditional Macs or PCs. Heck, something like 80% of all Android apps are written in Java anyway, so once you get a Java Virtual Machine up and running on your fancy new CPU architecture, you instantly have access to many, many thousands of apps.
Of course, they do need to be "compatible" at some level -- HTML, TCP/IP, etc. But instruction sets? They don't seem to matter nearly as much anymore as they once did.
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if they have any sense they make something that is compatible with an existing architecture
They could "easily" make they own version of ARM, though the last that did that was squashed with patent laywers from ARM but they were a small company
-Lasse
This would be a great time to undo the damage Bush Jr. did. Simply remove China's most favored nation status if they pull this shit.
OK, OK, a small step of removing that damage that Shrub did.
On a sunny day (Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:22:54 GMT) it happened snipped-for-privacy@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote in :
I do not want to defend China, but they are very clever in doing things, I remember the CVD (China Video Disk), basically a CD that recorded DVD quality and compressed it have by halving the horizontal picture size, player stretches it on playback. I think it became part of the official DVD spec, that is any DVD player plays it. I have made many CVDs :-)
As it is going now China will dictate the standards of the future. Larger population, larger market, people will target that.
architecture-spec
Choice A: Stop driving tanks over original thinkers, lose job, political system, and maybe life.
Choice B: Tell a bunch of guys who haven't had tanks driven over them to think originally. Fail the technology game, but retain job and life.
Hmm. Which would _you_ do?
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Probably something that came from the West but wasn't good enough to sell in the West. Remember Video CD? Lots of sales in Asia, never introduced in the West. We had to wait for the DVD.
Not really. Proven technology is hard to re-invent. Even in the good old Cold War days a lot of US companies sold telephony equipment to the USSR. The KGB did require a standard interface for listening in on phone conversations though:
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On a sunny day (Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:20:55 GMT) it happened snipped-for-privacy@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote in :
Oh, no, they have their own labs, there were several other things too, that never made it in Europe and the US, not because it was inferior, but basically because Europe had no clue. The AV scene was changing extremely fast back then, and even still today, although I have not followed it closely for a couple of years. But you must have noticed the power of companies like Huawei etc grabbing market, and the paranoid reaction of the US as it defends itself using 'security risk' as argument. The Chinese now have the dollars, so they try to buy some real stuff and invest in US an European companies, basically making those their own.
As I mentioned before, they INVENT things, Consider how many people China pushes out of their universities each year, and not because those people are good in baseball. Today Germany introduced the 'bluecard' that basically gives access to non EU citizens of higher qualifications to work in Germany and attain citizenship automatically after some time if they hold a job. The world is screaming for high tech people, and China can deliver them! Just like all other products. OK some will be not so good, but I am sure their government will make very sure the export will live up to standard. That way they will work themselves into the top of all the companies, and basically hold the steering wheel.
There will be resistance from the local people, I remember once after doing some job interviews for a position in the company I worked selecting an eastern guy as the best suited, boss decided against that, Arguments unknown, but a Dutch guy got it. I think it was he wrong choice, but...
G. W. Bush was president in 2000?
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The Chinese have already standardized on their own version of Linux, so it isn't such a painful separation from other CPU standards.
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lays it.
They are very cleaver in Olympic too... Remember that young lady who won the gold medal in gymnastics ?
So, be careful when dealing with them (official) due to their records of dishonesty
On a sunny day (Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:28:39 -0700 (PDT)) it happened halong wrote in :
I have my experiences with Chinese ebay sellers... Counter fit chips, incompatible memory sticks, incomplete deliveries... capacitors with lower value then advertised...
I guess in love, war, and business anything goes :-) Here is the latest takeover from Huawei (in German)
I guess a couple of more years and China too will be unionized and become sluggish. The pendulum. It seems to me that in China especially the pendulum swings a lot sideways, from Mao to what we see now, and then maybe back to like it was in ancient times.
[1] for what that word is worth these days,
halong
Huawei.
become sluggish.
Somehow i don't see the Chinese ruling groups tolerating the nonsense and violence that so marked the emergence of American trade unionism.
sideways,
ancient times.
It swings in all available dimensions.
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