Pretzel Huawei Camera

I can not find the thread, but this seem the most appropriate place to post.

the pretzel posted about some super dooper resolution mobile phone from Huawei and receieved a general rebuff.

From the article at this link;

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it appears that this is possible.

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news18
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news18 wrote on 29/01/2019 9:15 AM:

All this ka-fuf-ful about Huawei and the Internet has me intrigued!!

I use a Huawei 3G USB Dongle to connect to the Internet (like at this very moment!!). Does this mean that Huawei is getting a copy of all my e-mails (out and in!!)?? Does Hauwei know each and every website that I visit??

Sort of reminds me of a rumour, several years ago, where if you had a voice operated T.V., there was someone in New York (as I heard it) that was listening to all the conversations in your lounge room, just in-case you/someone told the T.V. to change channels or some such!!

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Daniel60

Yes but it is about the chinese government getting access.

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FMurtz

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Because they are a Chinese company, the chinese government can order them to tap comms. WTF is different anywhere else. the 5 eyes is just pssed that the chinese can have the same skills they have had for decades.

Sheesh, CISCO was called out decades ago.

Now it s all automated, but because your voice command has to listen in all the time, it can be tapped to hear you.

There is no a Crowd Supply (?) that sits on top of one of those google devices and plays it white noise to cover your speech and somehow doesn't allow the device to be activated until you give it a special command first, then you can command the google(?) device. Or was it Apple.

since the device is a 3D printed rock or stuff, it allows decrative printing and I reallyu like the fungi garden verion.

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news18

Do tell!

USB dongles and your emails are neither here nor their in the grand scheme of things.

What's worrying most five-eyes nations is that Huawei is by far the cheapest bidder for the supply and installation of 5G *infrastructure* equipment. What with the way the Chinese government and Chinese companies work and the fact that, if there's another global conflict there's a 50/50 chance China will be on the other side (not to mention proven state-sponsored Chinese hacking into Western companies and foreign electoral systems). Well there's a chance that not only could crucial data be stolen or manipulated at the pipeline level but also whole critical systems could be remotely shut down in times of war.

Companies like Facebook, Microsoft and Google have massive amounts of data that, if mined properly can give massive power. Some of that data is coming out of China. Spy agencies are suggesting that China wants a piece of that cake too but they've had no luck doing it on the software level (other than driver disks supplied with Aliexpress widgets ) so hardware is the next logical choice. In fact it could be a superior method.

If you'd beleive that....

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~misfit~

Emails would normally be encrypted so unless the Chinese have broken some of the encryption algorithums that are still considered secure by the industry (not that I'd rule it out), they wouldn't be able to learn much from tapping into the raw network data via the modem. If you were really important, I guess some useful hints might be learned by simply looking at the quantity and frequency of Email data that you access.

For the web, a compromised modem could tell them about every website you visit by looking at the DNS resolution and IP address information. If the website uses HTTPS, then they won't know what information you are sending and receiving, but if you spent 10 hours a day looking at "

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", that fact might be enough to give them suspicions on its own.

Personally I'm right now using a 3G ZTE modem for all my internet, which is another Chinese company and probably no more trustworthy. I'm planning to switch to a 4G modem from Sierra Wireless once I (maybe "if I") sort out some driver issues with the OpenWRT Operating System running on my wifi router, which the modem plugs into. I avoided a Chinese-designed modem not particularly for fear over them watching my every move, but because Huawei now dominate the mobile broadband modem market entirely in Australia (at least for Telstra and Optus), and they seem to have stopped offering any modems that can be controlled explicitly by the user.

That is to say, all their modems now insist on working via web interfaces so that you can't use software on your computer (in my case, my router) to directly tell them whether to, and how to, connect. Plus they run their own networking software on the modem, which exposes it to a risk of being hacked. It would probably also make it easier to forward info to the Chinese government, though I won't pretend that the old modems couldn't have been set up to do that as well.

As for the government's worries about Huawei. As Misfit noted, that's much more about the Chinese shutting down the country's internet if we got on the wrong side of them. Network connected infrastructure has already proven difficult to protect against hackers. But if the protections themselves were written by your enemy, then you haven't got much hope. Of course that would still apply to modems and phones

- an unhackable network isn't much good if all the devices to use with it have been shut down by the Chinese, and I could only buy my non-Chinese 4G modem 2nd-hand because, as far as I can tell, Huawei is now the only game in town (Telstra-compatible, anyway).

I doubt that one, but it's more likely that they're all saved for future reference somewhere. Amazon were caught out for that recently, though I think only for conversations where the device picked up its "keyword".

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Computer Nerd Kev

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Lol, Huawei had nothing to do with the sharing of the plans form the new Canberra spy depot and the complete plans, after upgrade to the australa parliament house. "Proven", funny how other counntries are saying no proof has ever been shown to them and the 5 eyes are unable to prove anything, despite plenty of request.

They would have to better than the current kit on CISCO then, where ll the current hacks are happenng.

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news18

Nope, emails are not normally encrypted, unless you and the recipient agree to do so.

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news18

Corse they do.

And the phones do too now.

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Rod Speed

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