Do you mean that only *one* footprint is needed without regard to which PCB side the SMT is put on? Or stated differently, can a SMT part be put on either side of a board? That program may be a welcome "visitor" on my HD! Thanks; adding it to my list of proggies to test.
** WOW! I see that footprints are from Ivex - and i have the Ivex WinBoard, meaning that (maybe) the footprints inmy created library may work in FreePCB (!).
Those work *only* when there is "cooperation" at the other end...
You make that sound like a rare occourance. I find the inverse to be true. So, has your preconception kept you from installing one?
That seems logical, but IME, *Resume* is at the option of the site admin. . ..
You do a disservice to real Download Managers by lumping that M$ crap in with the rest. . ..
Amen.
GetRight has been around a long time and has gotten it mostly right since way back. With GetRight, you sometimes get a warning in the dialog box[1] that says that the site does not allow *Resume*. . .. . [1] I LOVE the 4th box in the corner (a dot) that allows you to *Minimize to Tray*. I wish more apps had that.
Not so Robert! The website has no idea who or what is asking for the information. What it does know is the "what" sends it the location of the file desired (URL), and which block is currently required. You can ask for the different blocks in the file in any order you want. The download protocol is supposed to ask for bad blocks to be repeated until they are successfully downloaded.
There are a number of nice download managers that will go to the 7 seas to make sure that a file is downloaded completely.
It shouldn't come as any big surprise that the one included with Internet Explorer doesn't do a good job. Not even the one that comes with Mozilla, or Firefox does all that good of a job. At least with the Mozilla download manager, you can set how tenacious it is.
-Chuck
I do not use IE; i *RIPPED* it out by its guts from Win98SE and as much as possible (but impossible to completely) in Win2K.
Good, very sensible! I see that you are using Netscape 7.2. Dare I presume that you are using Netscape 7.2 for downloading files off of the web?
I had a lot of trouble with Netscape saying that it had downloaded the complete file, only to find that it had actually quit after being only part of the way done.
For FTP downloads, I use ProZilla, which unfortunately for you, only runs under linux, and other unix like operating systems... but what I describe will give you an idea of what is possible:
ProZilla goes out to the ftp site, and starts up to 4 different requests for the file. The first asks for the first quarter, the second, the second quarter, the third, the third quarter, and the fourth, the fourth quarter, and it merrily sucks all four quarters of the file from the site at one time. It won't quit until you stop it, or it has successfully downloaded the entire file.
The server side has no say in whether or not you can resume a download. It is entirely up to your download manager... and as I said, even the one in Mozilla, and Firefox is not very good. The one in Netscape seems to be even worse. The transaction that goes on during a file download is one where your manager passes the number of the block it wants to the server, and the server sends the block. Your download manager could ask for the blocks in the reverse order, or random order if it wanted to. The server side would neither know, nor care.
Try googling the following words: "download" "manager" "windows"
It should get you a whole pile of download managers that will work under netscrape on windoze.
One other thing I would suggest you do, is abandon netscape, and download mozilla suite 1.7 from
It is a much better implementation than the ad ridden mess that netscape became after being bought by AOL.
-Chuck
Mozilla suite is vastly superior to the firefox/thunderbird combination. It has a better user interface, a smaller footprint, and it has a chat (IRC) feature, web development editors (composers), and javascript debuggers all in one package.
Even combined with thunderbird, firefox cannot do even one half of what mozilla suite does, and does well. MOFO were idiots for dumping the suite in favor of the buggy IE/OE clones firefox and thunderbird. The sole and only reason they did it was because MS had IE and OE separate.
Mozilla suite is currently being developed as the Seamonkey project.
-Chuck
I'm glad I'm late to this part of the thread. You have done the yeoman work masterfully.
For those who are still (inexplicably) unconvinced:
It is IE that has the real reputation for doing exactly that (although Netscape might do it too).
Sounds much like many other download managers. I find Free Download Manager
That's not actually true. Almost all ftp servers will support resumed download by default, but it can be disabled and some older servers do not support it by default. However, these days it is very rare to find an ftp server that does not support resume (although many will limit the simultaneous connections to a single IP address). Similarly, http servers do not necessarily support resume - although most do, there is still a substantial proportion that do not.
Still, using a decent download manager is strongly recommended.
You should then abandon the mozilla suite, and download firefox (and thunderbird for mail, if you want to switch mail client too). The mozilla suite itself is pretty much dead-end - all its developers are concentrating on firefox. Opera is another solid choice, if you like its style.
I use Gecko and GetRight--works for me. Sometimes I have to do (Copy URL to Clipboard) File; Enter New URL ; (Auto-Pasted). . ..
It used to be adware (like Opera): http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:tJZvFrScneoJ:
Earlier versions:
I keep my POTS line and modem up 24/7, for months at a time. I routinely download files that at hundreds of megabytes in size. I just set them up to go overnight.
When I do have problems, I think it is more a matter of the server end timing out on my download. The server master has set the maximum download interval to be shorter than the time required to download using a POTS modem.
The DLM will have instructions on how to install it. Basically, it is just a plugin.
Mozilla 1.7.x and Seamonkey are a better browser suite than Netscape. Netscape is customized adaptation of Mozilla, so they share almost all of the same code. But many of the things Netscape (AOL) did to customize Mozilla are not appropriate to folks that don't use AOL, and they left out some interesting tidbits.
-Chuck
I have had zero problems downloading using NS72 - providing the line stayed connected (dropped only once during a 3Mbyte download). And i have seen where it had no idea as to the file length - but still zero problems.
So assuming i find a decent DLM that will be happy with NS, how would i "inhibit" the NS DLM and "enable" the !foreign! one?
That free DLM *demands* IE, so it is useless for me.
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:gbYGKr8-uJMJ:wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Reasons+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-plugins-*-*-*-*-basic-functionality+polished+history-manager+*-was-not-done+*-*-*-*-*-download-plugins-*-provide-*-basic-functionality+Text-only-*-*-*-*-*-icons+history-manager+*-one-set-*-*-libraries+more-*-*-Edit-Preferences+edit-*-*-with-Composer+polished+animated-*+quicklaunch
....At least GetRight supports NS; they do not say how much and do not say anything about limitations on the free download version.
So far i have tried WinQcad, VuTrax and DipTrace. I have nits to pick on all of them, but DipTrace has the fewest and smallest. Have e-mail queries out for demo CDs and pricing (why is it that so few say anything about pricing?). If there is no response within 5 days, the "option" is dropped.
Sure you do, you use Netscape. AOL bought Netscape (the company), and then proceeded to recast Netscape (the browser) in their image. You may not be using AOL's network services, but you are using their browser.
Mozilla 1.7 suite (no longer supported), and SeaMonkey (fully supported) are the same browser, but without AOL's "enhancements".
-Chuck
I do not use AOL or anything related to it (eg: AIM) and refuse to do so unless someone wants to pay me $2,000,000 tax free.
Never heard of DipTrace, but it actually looks pretty nice.
Uh.. click on the "order diptrace" link. Looks like it goes from free to $495. Downloads from 8.5 to 20.6MB.
-- John Devereux
mozilla suite does, and does well. MOFO
and thunderbird. The sole and only
good while since I tried Seamonkey. I
html editing, which I seldom do). Prior
email client.
I can't speak to Opera, as the last time I tried it was many years ago, and I discarded it in favor of Netscape.
should be made much easier and clearer to
"standard", "specialised" and "experimental"
way an IE clone
Firefox is much better than IE... the text based browser lynx is much better than IE ;-)
Firefox MOFO split up the Mozilla suite into Firefox, and Thunderbird, (and a couple other elements that have completely vanished) in order to make it appear to be resource equivalent to IE/OE. They reasoned that the unwashed Microsloth masses were used to having the browser and email/news client be a smaller separate package, so they felt that they could gain more "market share" with a split product.
- I have recently been
useful a browser as Firefox or Opera
"Other software", and
Mozilla Foundation.
MOFO, abandoned Mozilla Suite completely. So, the SeaMonkey project was created to carry on the development of the Suite. It is independent of MOFO, though it is lead by several of the original development crew.
for Robert - Firefox is much smaller
You only have to download it once. With Firefox, and Thunderbird, the total download footprint exceeds Seamonkey/Mozilla Suite.
Only if you don't like to keep your email client open while you browse. I keep my email client active at all times... though it may be in the background. It is essential that the client be active if you want to be informed when new email arrives.
About 50% of the code in Firefox and Thunderbird is common to both applications. When you have both Firefox and Thunderbird active at the same time, there are duplicate copies of this code running on your computer. Mozilla Suite and SeaMonkey take advantage of this fact, and only keep one copy of that common code in memory. This produces a significantly smaller footprint.
Firefox/Thunderbird for those that don't.
Except that the idiots at MOFO decided to remove that choice from their user base. They decided to direct themselves from "scratching their own itch" to cowtowing to the unwashed masses that use Microsloth OE and IE.
The Seamonkey project was created to restore the choice that MOFO removed.
-Chuck
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