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No, they do that with LCD's.

It's exactly what they did when they fixed my TV last year, under warranty.

My friend said that is what they would do, and the part-swapper who came out to fit the "new" board confirmed it was reworked. He pointed out the capacitors that were replaced.

No, they do that with LCD's.

It's exactly what they did when they fixed my TV last year, under warranty.

My friend said that is what they would do, and the part-swapper who came out to fit the "new" board confirmed it was reworked. He pointed out the capacitors that were replaced.

Before the serviceman would start I had to sign a form agreeing to accept "second hand " parts or whatever Samsung sent out in the words of the repair guy. He also said that the old board had to be sent back to Samsung. Sounds like they may well repair boards and reissue. This was under warranty btw.

With the right equipment replacing caps and SMT components, even IC's, takes a few minutes so it would be economically viable to do so especially with common faults. (like the dodgey caps in the power supply board causing the click of death which affected nearly every Samsung LCD a couple of years ago)

Another 'click of death', albeit different. I well remember the Iomega Zip drive 'click of death'... those drives were a complete PITA but was better than using a floppy, I suppose. When they worked, that is.

Err, they "were" a floppy albeit with a much greater capacity than the useless 1.44 MB jiggers! I have a number of them around here and have experienced few issues with them in recent years. I have 4 x 250 MB IDE internal drives, 2 or 3 250 MB USB externals and 2 750 MB externals, one USB, the other Firewire. The Firewire 750 lives on one of my Macs. Lost count of the number of disk I have. No shortage however. The cheapness of CDs and the proliferation of USB devices has rendered them all somewhat redundant but they still find uses around here.

We quibbble on terms then... :)

Yep, I've pretty much gone to hard drives and USB memory sticks for most things now.

not possible with the design of many circuit boards today with the components printed on the boards and the chips too small to de-solder, and not to mention the time troubleshooting. cheaper/easier just to replace the board

I think that was the Jaz - Zips were much more reliable.

geoff

It definitely was the Zip that was afflicted with the click of death. Had one myself many years back. It was, if I recall correctly, a 100 Meg USB external drive, one of the later slimline case models. The 250 Meg and larger zip drives didn't seem to be as badly afflicted.

The Zip used floppy disk technology (a PET film disk) whereas the Jaz used a rigid platter. Because the Zip used a "floppy" medium, it was more rugged than the Jaz system. We had both forms of drives at my workplace years back. I always carried a Zip drive and a few Zip floppies to and from work in my briefcase. I was very reluctant to do the same with the Jaz drive or media.

There is no reason why the Jaz drive could not develop a "click of death" fault however. The term was originally coined to refer to the action of the heads on a hard disk seeking to track zero repeatedly when reference information on the platters was unable to be read. This resulted in a clicking noise. Since the Jaz is effectively a removable platter hard disk, it should be prone to exhibiting the same click in similar circumstances. I never had the experience with a Jaz though had it often on hard drives in the 90s.

No, Zips were infamous for the COD

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I have several Zips and 4 Jaz drives. The Zips still work (though not much use for them nowadays), and all but 2 of my dozen+ Jaz cartridges died long ago, most with the famous Click Of Death.

In the day it seemed the Jaz most vulnerable.

geoff

Yes, but before there was Jazz there was Zip!, possibly around the Mesolithic era :), and the Zip's had the COD before Jazz even saw the light of day. I can remember writing about it in the days before Jazz . btw.. I still have Zips and use them! However, Win7 does not support the Iomega tools software, so you can't password protect them, unless there is some other way of doing it.