$1b electric car infrastructure deal - Page 3

No, I already said I don't believe your piffle.

MrT.

**Here is what ONE Sydney council spent:

http://www.hurstville.nsw.gov.au/_upload/files/Breakdown%20of%20Infrastucture%20Plus%20Charts.pdf

Here's more information:

http://www.hurstville.nsw.gov.au/PageZone_AboutCouncil.asp?z=2&c46%6&p11%41

All of these funds were sourced from ratepayers (regardless of their car
ownership status).

Here is a list of local governments in NSW:

http://www.dlg.nsw.gov.au/dlg/dlghome/dlg_LocalGovDirectory.asp?index=1

You can research how much each spent on roadworks if you like. I don't have
the time.

EXACTLY ! MORE TAXES.

Graham

**Just to fill you in on the precise nature of the discussion, we're talking
about how the general population contributes to the cost of roads.

talking

And how motorists contribute to general taxation.

MrT.

about how the general population contributes to the cost of roads.


Nope, motorists are very heavily subsidised by general taxation.

Still not holding my breathe waiting for proof on that load of "piffle".
Even the pollies aren't stupid enough to claim that!

MrT.

Lol, they generall claim it is a fee for services provided, like
rubbish collection,
that road to your door/driveway,
rain water drainage,
stray dog control,
etc, etc, etc

Which of course is rubbish, or they would charge for each specific service,
and let those who don't need them save some money.

MrT.

When they start doing that,then you will be on a hiding to hell and an
empty bank account.

Lol, I'd love to see rubbish collection charge by weight. I'd hear the
chorus of screams all around as the big truck lifts the overflowing
megabins every week.

Coming in the UK. And one guy got fined for allowing his bin's lid not to
be closed due to excessive contents by about £220.

Graham

Not me, I'd save a fortune.



I get a discount for having a small rubbish bin already.

MrT.

Which council?

http://www.hurstville.nsw.gov.au/_upload/files/Breakdown%20of%20Infrastuctur
e%20Plus%20Charts.pdf

http://www.hurstville.nsw.gov.au/PageZone_AboutCouncil.asp?z=2&c46%6&p11%41


So you DELIBERATELY ignore what I posted two or three times already :
"Make sure you include all motoring related taxes, levies, duties, excises,
fines, etc, federal, state and local." just to make an incorrect assumption?

You also ignore the fact that non-motorists also use the roads and footpaths
for public transport, push bikes, walking, and especially for road transport
of all their consumer goods and most other services as well. Why I wonder?
I would love to know just who in Australia can manage without reliance on
the road network one way or another, in the last century?

MrT.

Well, back then,roads were much more basic and didn't require complex
engineering to cater for 4 tonne behomeuth charging along at 120km/hr.

Plenty of people got along with out motor vehicle. My ancestors moved from
Victoria to NSW by walking.

Irrelevant.

Very relevant in that I and lots ofother people do not need the "road
network" as you call it to get around. I do not need mega highways between
capital cities, four/six lane free ways, 2 lane major motor ways, or even
two way streets to get around, go shopping, buy stuff and carry out my
business.

I am very happy with the many alternatives that exist.

You are in a tiny minority. Modern economies require high mobility.

Graham

I didn't say that I wasn't mobile,



Which is NOT synonymous with a expensive road network.
Nor any measure of "good"

e.g 10 stores in our main street mainly selling cheap plastic crap and
other junk from China.

I did say in the last century!
Name one person who does not have any food, goods or other services
delivered by road?

MrT.