Internal wiring of USA v UK mains plug

Still a better insulator than the sort of metals kettles would otherwise be made of, though, which was the point.

Think you're missing the point that the water restricts the maximum temperature.

You do pasta in a kettle? Have you some secret way of getting it to align so it can be poured?

You've found a source of open kettles then? Is this a US thing? I don't think they would conform to UK H&S regs. Do you dip the cup into them to get the boiling water out?

So use a proper electric kettle. That will save your gas bill.

Go on then Einstein, show the maths to prove this.

Bullshit. It would cost me twice as much to boil my water with your kettle as it would with my gas and stove-top 2 quart saucepan.

Also, if your kettles have exposed coils in them, folks won't likely be putting their pasta into them.

Basic inline water heaters prove it. If it were so much faster, we would have 3kW inline water heaters. As it stands, that it not the case.

Sure, as you increase power, you get more work done. But you also lose more of that heat as well.

What it really comes down to is the diameter (and length) of the coil.

Since both 1kW as well as 3kW coils BOTH reach temperatures far above the boiling temp of water, it would seem to me that you would foresee some point at which there are diminishing returns from the amount of energy one dumps into those coils over the return of heat imparted into the water.

I'd bet that a larger diameter coil will heat the water faster than a smaller diameter coil, for any given equal wattage, and the reason is that the coil surface area is so much larger, yet it's surface temp is very much the same.

So to me, the ideal heater for water would be one that does the job with the least amount of energy in a reasonable time.

I'd love to see your proof. A 'two quart' saucepan will have *vast* heat losses. A decent electric kettle can cope with just one cupful of water if that's all that's needed.

Did you put soap in the kettle as a kid too?

Having had experience of a 1kW electric kettle I can tell you it doesn't take a 'reasonable' time.

On the contrary. It is very efficient as it is *only* the cookware that heats up.

Did you miss the 84% vs 40% for gas efficiency paragraph?

Most cookware sold today in Sweden is induction compatible, and have been for quite a while. Even though we don't have have an induction stove today I believe most of our cookware is compatible.

What type of cookware would you miss out on?

I would say you have no clue.

They started out in restaurant kitchens many years ago and they have several advantages:

I recommend following the link to this page:

to see the pros and cons.

This must be a cultural thing, but I have no idea what in hell you are talking about.

You use a spaghetti strainer. And yes, some things need an open kettle.

Tam

Join the club. My stupid reply was in response to the stupid comment from Spurious response.

Thinks. In the UK a kettle is only used for boiling water. Usually for making tea or instant coffee. Do you guys call some form of general cooking utensil a kettle too?

I think this may be the problem. From

"In the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Canada, a kettle is a device used to quickly heat water for hot drinks, such as tea or instant coffee. It is normally constructed out of durable plastic or steel (with a plastic handle) and powered by mains electricity."

and

"In the United States, a kettle usually refers to the stovetop metallic version with a steam whistle.

Elsewhere in the world (and sometimes in the United Kingdom) the word kettle can refer to a metal pot for boiling or stewing, and a kettle is probably the most ancient kind of metal cooking utensil.

The word kettle originates from Latin catillus, which in various contexts is translated as bowl, deep dish, or funnel."

Perhaps SR is cooking pasta in something like a Kettle Drum :-)

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Of course not! it'd take three and twentyy seconds.

for a heating element immersed in the water it is almost exactly linear, do the math.

Bye. Jasen

Only 3KW? why would someone want a toy like that?

do the math... heat is the one form of energy tat can always be produced electrically with 100% efficiency.

convection, and bubbling, will stir the water, a cappucino machine will heat a mug of milk in only a few seconds - the steam jet is good for over ten kilowatts.

faster is generally more efficient.

Bye. Jasen

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polypropylene is commonly used, look it up.

bullshit.

Bye. Jasen

actually polypropylene is a slightly worse heat conductor than most other thermoplastics :) this guy is just spurious.

Bye. Jasen

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Except that you cannot place your veggies in there, or any other cooking need.

Some people do more than drink tea. We use continuously boiling water for many cooking needs, and those are the only needs I have, and my cup of tea works just fine with water that only takes a few minutes to boil over a trickle flame.

I know how to apply heat to a surface and waste very little.