CR battery shape anomaly

Hi,

had a call from a customer who wanted to replace the CR4250 battery in his Yamaha AN1X keyboard. He bought a Duracell but it wouldn't easily fit in the holder, and he didn't want to break anything by forcing it in.

He sent me a picture of the old battery next to the new one, showing a very different build structure. The old one is on the right, manufactured by FDK, Japan, the left is the Duracell.

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All the CR types I have seen look like the Duracell - is there/was there different types about?

Seems rather strange that this one, and its holder, apparently do not conform to modern size standards.

Gareth.

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Gareth Magennis
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Ah, he's just sent me this link.

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Maybe the "N" stands for "Not really the same shape as all the others"

Gareth.

Reply to
Gareth Magennis

The battery on the right looks exactly like the one in my signal generator, a Rohde and Schwarz SMT03. I could open it up later today and get you a part # if that would be of any use. Let me know.

Reply to
JW

The solution to this problem is to buy a "correct" holder and replace the original.

----------------- What's odd is that the "original" cell has the wrong shape. Had the change been in the other direction, I wouldn't have been surprised. The Chinese are very bad about sticking with the correct dimensions. I bought supposedly correct 3V alkaline batteries for a folding Colorpack camera -- and they wouldn?t fit. The seller told me his suppliers don't care to get it right. (I would up having to use CR123A cells.)

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William Sommerwerck

Well not really, he could get this:

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instead of this:

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The question is, why do both these types currently exist side by side, being as they (according to my customer) are non compatible in certain holders?

(I have just pulled both those pdf's straight from the Farnell website)

Gareth.

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Gareth Magennis

There's two mechanical variants, both with the 2450 part number. CR2450 and CR2450N don't fit the same socket. Some industrial suppliers ( Mcmaster.com for instance) offer both, but usual stocks of batteries (at shops) offer only one manufacturer's offerings and would only have ONE of the two.

CR2450 :== McMaster # 7701K58, CR2450N :== McMaster #7702K62 The CR2450N is appropriate for (among other things) my digital micrometer; as far as I know, it's a Renata product only.

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whit3rd

There's two mechanical variants, both with the 2450 part number. CR2450 and CR2450N don't fit the same socket. Some industrial suppliers ( Mcmaster.com for instance) offer both, but usual stocks of batteries (at shops) offer only one manufacturer's offerings and would only have ONE of the two.

CR2450 :== McMaster # 7701K58, CR2450N :== McMaster #7701K62 The CR2450N is appropriate for (among other things) my digital micrometer; as far as I know, it's a Renata product only.

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whit3rd

Thanks.

Pretty much the only CR series of battery I ever come across is the CR2032 in its various connection guises. There don't appear to be any such mechanical variants with that type. Or at least Renata don't make one.

Cheers,

Gareth.

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Gareth Magennis

The cell holder could possibly be modified with a Dremel tool or similar to accept the more common cell.. or buy a holder for a common cell and maybe solder it in place of the existing holder or possibly mount it off to the side somewhere nearby.

-- Cheers, WB .............

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Wild_Bill

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