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they are slowly getting more common but even then the bunnings near me has three imperial screws for every Metric. I remember a couple of years back wanting a countersunk 6mm Bolt for a speaker could I got one locally ??? nope I ended up having to go to a specialist Bolt place (Mason & Amson) to get one.

Of course I love all the metricised Measurements we still have like Ply sold in multiples of a foot, Sorry multiples of 300mm and the old 2 by 4, sorry 50 by 100mm (well actually this one almost makes sense)

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But the old saying "Chubby, tubby, two-by-four, couldn't get thru the kitchen door" won't make sense to the kids anymore..

And then there's the definition of A LART: beat over the head with a clue by four. How will they understand that??

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Years ago, my son (now 23) was at my mother's house and she asked him to dial a phone number for her. He came back holding the phone, puzzled- "how do you work this?" It was a dial telephone.

Cheers!

Chip Shults

Yeah, same here. One of the Pacific Telephone technicians said his kids had never seen a rotary dial telephone(!) They didn't know how it worked.

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I repaired a strowger switch once. :)

So did I. But it was in the Comm Room of the U.S.S. Ticonderoga, the aircraft carrier. That thing's a floating city!

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Have somebody bring a magnet. ;-)

Cheers! Rich

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People might or might not find this amusing - I reserve judgement, because when I was in about fourth grade (about age 9, I guess, about 1958-ish), they had somebody come in to the classroom with a big telephone mock-up. It had a dial almost a foot in diameter, and even had a reasonable simulation of the contacts in a real telephone dial - the rep showed us that if you don't release the dial and let it run back at its own pace, (it's got a governor. True!) the contact bounce will cause a misdial.

We had classes on how to read a clock.

We had a segment on how to write a check, and balance a checkbook.

Any other nostalgic thoughts of the days when they actually taught kids stuff?

Cheers! Rich

Years ago a friend's parents lived in a hillside house that had a finished room on the downslope but only accessible from outside. His mother was sewing in the basement room and had the doors open. She had the radio on at the time. The neighbor 4 or 5 year old wandered over.

He kept looking puzzled and seemed to be searching for something as she continued sewing.

She finally asked him what he was looking for.

"Where's the picture?" he asked.

Even then. ... perhaps 1970s??? ... Many kids didn't know what a radio was.

X-No-Archive: yes "Rich Grise" wrote : "Sir Charles W. Shults III" wrote

: > Years ago, my son (now 23) was at my mother's house : > and she asked him to dial a phone number for her. : > He came back holding the phone, puzzled- : > "how do you work this?" : > It was a dial telephone. : > Cheers! Chip Shults : : People might or might not find this amusing - I reserve judgement, because : when I was in about fourth grade (about age 9, I guess, about

1958-ish), : they had somebody come in to the classroom with a big telephone mock-up. : It had a dial almost a foot in diameter, and even had a reasonable : simulation of the contacts in a real telephone dial - the rep showed : us that if you don't release the dial and let it run back at its own : pace, (it's got a governor. True!) the contact bounce will cause a misdial. : : We had classes on how to read a clock. : We had a segment on how to write a check, and balance a checkbook. : Any other nostalgic thoughts of the days when they actually taught : kids stuff? : Cheers! Rich

We had a class in school on "Communism Theory and Practice" Where the seductive nature of the Enemies of civilization were shown and why theoretical Communism was so enticing, and completely unworkable. The link to a Socialists paradise and the quest for total control of all human life was included, with several hypothetical outcomes. Very impressive! Never forget the images of mass starvation and murder the totalitarian control might use ___ again!

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Where and when was this?

The point is, of course, quite compelling -- if communism were a good thing, it would coexist with freedom, and it doesn't.

X-No-Archive: yes "Michael A. Covington" wrote : "Roger Gt" wrote : : > We had a class in school on "Communism Theory and Practice" Where : > the seductive nature of the Enemies of civilization were shown and : > why theoretical Communism was so enticing, and completely : > unworkable. The link to a Socialists paradise and the quest for : > total control of all human life was included, with several : > hypothetical outcomes. Very impressive! Never forget the images : > of mass starvation and murder the totalitarian control might use : > ___ again! : : Where and when was this? : : The point is, of course, quite compelling -- if communism were a good thing, : it would coexist with freedom, and it doesn't.

It was in 1954, Phoenix Arizona. Several schools in my area had a special visiting teaching staff for this class, the entire presentation took 4 hours. Don't remember who put it together, but there was an National Guard Captain as one of the teachers. (Not in Uniform) There was no test but we talked about it in assembly a lot!

We had the usual Civil Defense courses taught the same way! You know the ones, about surviving an atomic bomb attack. We only used the drill when a hail storm broke nearly all the windows in the school. Back then we had a lot of windows, to provide a lot of natural light! No more. The size and placement is rigidly controlled.... 'For Safety"

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Except that being that the box is outside, it probably has a bolt and/or nut that is/are stainless or brass, which aren't gonna work with a magnet. :-(

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As an Englishman who goes to the US a lot one of the things I have noticed is the gaps in the education and the things that US children are not taught or told about. For example when I went to primary school (7 to 11 years) we were taught all the American Indian tribes, where they came from geographically, who was friends with whom and generally about their lifestyle. I haven't met a single American who was taught it at school which, to me, seems absurd. It seems that all americans know about the pilgrim fathers which in terms of the whole picture was a fairly insignificant event.

This is not a dig at American education because I am sure the same applies to me, it's just that I can't see my gaps unless someone points them out to me.

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I remember knowing the names and locations of numerous tribes. This was standard in elementary school in Georgia in the 1960s. I didn't retain much of the knowledge, but it was good to know the information was available.

That is Massachusetts chauvinism. Much of American history can be read as an attempt of Massachusetts to run the entire country. The Mayflower Pilgrims (Massachusetts, 1620) were in my opinion much less historically important than the first successful English settlement (Jamestown, 1607, commonly glossed over because it happened in the South).

We are also taught that the Mayflower Pilgrims invented Thanksgiving, which sounds silly once you've encountered an English Harvest Festival. The Mayflower gang may have had something to do with setting the date of Thanksgiving in the U.S.; I'm not sure.

To what do you base this on?

I was taught all of that stuff in depth when I was in grade school, some

40 years ago. My son is currently in elementary school, and that is what they are doing right now.

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I can only base it on the people I have talked to about it. I suppose they tend to be mid 20s to mid 30s and hail from the top right hand side (Boston, New York and surrounding areas). Not exactly a representative sample I suppose but it was just an example. I wish I could offer another example because I know I have been shocked a few times by the "wrong" information that some people have been taught at school in the US.

Wrong means "different to what I was taught" :)

The USA is somewhat larger (amd more diverse) than the UK. For that matter my little state (Oregon) is a bit larger than the UK. Don't judge all of us by those NE elite snobs. :-)