Reading capacitance on SM capacitor

Jun 15, 2005 6 Replies

Hi,



I'm looking at a laptop (Toshiba Sat 3000, to be specific) motherboard that having some SMD suspecting leaky capacitors; Some basic questions if someone can bring me up-to-date to the world of surface mount device, that would be nice:


  • There are four of them in parallel; ohm reading both way, in circuit, about 50 Ohm. They are around the power charging area, and the circuit having a blown fuse. Would this sound like a strong posibilty for leaky cap ? (I can take them out one by one for sure...)


  • The capacitors are the good size ones in the SMD world (6mmx4mmx3mm); There is + sign printed on one end, and the printed note say "220" on first line and "g14" the next line. Would that be 220 pF ? Seem little for that size...



Thanks for any advice.



Cheers,



220 pf is the best bet. If they are showing 50 ohm both directions then either they're completely dead or you're measuring resistance through some other part of the circuit--for a capacitor you should be seeing a low initial resistance that increases over time as the capacitor charges.
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They probalby exist, but I've never seen a 220pF cap with a polarity marking. For their size, I'd bet on 220uF. I wouldn't count on your resistance measurement meaning bad caps.

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Those are 220 uF, probably tantalum. The ordinary failure mode is a short circuit in which case you would read much less than 50 Ohms. Some other part of the circuit is responsible for the 50 Ohm reading.

I tend to think that's 220uF as well, but all the references I've read so far on-line indicate that the number refer to pico Fara, with the last digit indicate the number of zero's to follow... That would make this 22 pF, which is against any other indicators (polarity sign is not popular for small cap, physical size of the cap...) Unless I'm still missing other way to read capacitor from a specific manufaturer.

I know measuring resistance in circuit is not conclusive; but before taking the cap out, I need the replacement ready just in case, therefore I need to read the capacitance value ...

Any other hint ? Thanks for the opinion so far.

First, the largest problems with leaking capacitors were with electrolytics, these are usually large capacitors and are usually not surface mounted.

Testing a capacitor with a voltmeter (ohm-meter) the way that you did won't tell you much and can destroy the item (the laptop). What you measured was mostly the resistance not of the capacitor, but of the REST of the circuit, and in measuring it you applied voltage to it, possibly in the wrong polarity. That can destroy the circuit. If you are going to test a capacitor, you need some specialized equipment and/or you need to test it "out of circuit".

From your size descriptions, I'd guess that they are tantalum rather than electrolytic, thus could not leak (no electrolyte). But they could still be bad, of course. "220", if it's the capacitance at all, most likely means 22 x 10**0 or 22; 220pf is a tiny, very small capacitor, do you perhaps mean 22 MF (there is only a difference there of

1,000,000:1)? It's hard to be sure, but my guess would be 22MF, IF the "220" is the capacitance at all. Sometimes they put part numbers on the parts and not the actual values. It can be very hard to tell. It COULD be 22MF at 14 volts, but then again, those could be part numbers and the values could be anything.

nospam_needed wrote:

When you see a 3-digit number on a part (resistor or capacitor), IF the number is the "value" of the part at all (and often it's not), the usual format is that the first two digits are the two significant digit and the 3rd is the power of tens exponent. For example, to take a resistor:

470 = 47 ohms 471 = 470 ohms 472 = 4,700 ohms 473 = 47,000 ohms

etc.

Both resistors and caps come with only a few "first two significant digits", most commonly:

10, 12, 15, 18, 22, 27, 33, 39, 47, 56, 68, 82, 91 [In "high tolerance" parts, there are additional standard values, and on special order, any value can be custom made, but the above are the most common "low tolerance" sizes]

Frank346 wrote:

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