Xilinx Package/Logic Options

Nov 07, 2005 4 Replies

Hello:



This is a question/comment for the Xilinx people here. Is there a technical (or Marketing) reason that there are not more FPGA's that have lots of logic and RAM resources in a very small package. FOr example an XC3S1500 in a VQ100 or VQ44? I have applications which I need very few I/O but need lots of logic. For example, a CPU that streams A/D data in serially and spits data back out serailly.



Also, BRING BACK Ceramic PGA! I understand its an expensive package, but with the high cost of FPGAs, I would rather pay the money to have easier PCB and hand assembly. I love FPGAs work but hate working with BGA's. Its expensive to protoype with. It would nice to lots more logic and RAM in the QFP packages!


-Eli


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possible the FPGA vendors see no interest in that. pitty.

I would really welcome some FPGA in QFN40, with onchip USB and etherner PHY :)

but the FPGAs in small packages are rather small. The best small is possible s3e-500 in CP132 8b8 mm

for ceramic packages i bet the times are over forever.

Antti

BGA packages are FAR easier to deal with in automated reflow for a number of reasons. BGAs are also the smallest footprint/connection technology around, which is important to a lot of people. Another thread was noting that to get high levels of logic usually entails getting a lot of pins as well.

I understand the desire for non-BGA versions (There's been a number of times I wished for it), but the commercial market probably won't sustain it in very high pin count packages.

Cheers

PeteS

What are military/space people using these days? (I thought that was the reason for ceramic packages in the old days.)

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The last space project I was on (earlier this year) was to use a Virtex2 in a ceramic column grid array. It's basically a ceramic BGA with solder columns instead of balls. I believe the reasoning behind the columns is that they will allow more differential thermal expansion before the stress pops the part off the board. It is still a ceramic package, but not in a form factor that is any easier for a hobbyist to use than a bga package, and it is a heck of a lot more expensive.

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