Where did "RUN" go?

Aug 21, 2010 88 Replies

My old IBM Model M keyboard refused to run with the current Intel mobo, I wonder if it is a speed issue (clock rate) or maybe signal level issue?

Maybe I could try a couple pullups on the clock and data lines, anyone struck this? Would work if it's a TTL vs CMOS signal level issue? Hmm, what value pullup? 330R? 220R? Might go try it. Need distraction from need to go to the dentist today...

Current in use Dell keyboard is worn, so the wider keys (those that used to have wire mechanical helpers) tend to snag on the way down.

I don't miss the windoze flag ;)

Grant.

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Yeah, but haven't you also mentioned you have a closest full of dead keyboards and mice too? :-)

Keyboard prices are all over the map, and unfortunately I don't think there's always that great of a correlation between price and quality. I have worn off the lettering on some

Not dead ones... live ones. My keyboards outlast my PC's. I _do_ seem to wear old mice though... they start sending double-clicks when single clicked :-(

The only recent problem I had with a keyboard was a Belkin that drew too much USB current and kept my KVM from working. Switching to a $20 Logitech keyboard fixed it. ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.

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To answer own question, I opened up the IBM, added a couple 300R pullups and replaced a couple 47uF electros on general principles, and it now works on that Intel (DP965LT) mobo that I've had since 2007. At the time I simply plugged in a different keyboard, but they wear out too fast.

Got the noisy clacky IBM again. Keyboard made in the USA, April '93.

No unnecessary keys on this one, just lots of noise and keys that work!

OP: Was only the Shutdown option displayed because of windows update wanted a restart? MSFT do that on Win7, dunno if they do it on WinXP as well now, 'cos I only do manual updates on the dual boot WinXP boxes.

Grant.

I used to use IBM PS/2 buckling spring keyboards exclusively (they threw them away by the skid-full when I worked at IBM). It took me over 17 years to kill the one off my PS/2. Unfortunately, my ThinkPad doesn't like PS/2 keyboards, so had to replace the one I was using. I bought a USB buckling spring keyboard from Unicomp (pckeyboard.com). They're expensive ($70), though.

Regedit, msconfig, FURget others (listed these in frequency of use from hardly ever toward almost never).

Wall, hain't eggzaktly original 1980 boat-anchor clicker, 'tiz a mite old.

That's missing on my 20+ year old IBM AT keyboard. (Which you'd have to pry from my dead cold hands to take away...)

You can still get buckling-spring keyboards from a couple of places... these keys appear to be the most popular:

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(and some of them do have Windows/Mac/Linux keys).

Ok, I forgot the command prompt. I do use it once in a while, too. I don't ever remember needing RUN, though.

Keyboards are made in China...

What? No bright red PANIC buttons?

You can get cheap PS/2 to USB converters for keyboards.

Too bad these are sold out:

So are flags.

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Fifty stars and thirteen stripes all right.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Cute ;-) ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.

Mine's made in the USA, though the PCB inside was made in Hong Kong.

IBM Model M, complete with the coffee dams and overflows and the long lead with curly cord :)

Grant.

Not all of them. Some Dollar Tree stores had Chinese made 'American' flags with more than 50 stars.

Subcontracted by Henry Ford on the old 'Model T' production line, no doubt. :)

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They sold out fast. I saw them, and they were gone before I could order a couple. I wanted them, for some work with Veterans.

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