What's this Tesla Power Innovator Program?

What is it selling, plans for some bs apparatus?

Not remotely. From a quick skim it seems he just claims more efficiency for transformers. So even if he were right and no-one else today knew, it woul dn't get you anywhere remotely near 82% saving from redesigning all your PS Us. 10% would be very lucky, iff it had validity.

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My WOT (Web of trust) app alarm went off. Said site wasn't trust worthy.

I have that app built into my head. The alert said "Hendershot generator".

Bottom line, even if Tesla's name is on it, well, that doesn't make it righ t. He was pretty sharp but there were holes in his theories. He probably co uld have picked up electricity from the air somehow and transmitted it thro ugh the ground, but why ? I think he said it would be like 10 Hz AC. You wa nt that going through your vegetable garden ? Where your dog pees ? Where y our kids play ?

What's more, even if it was found not to be harmful, how do you collect ele ctric bills ? It simply isn't right for an old Woman who has noting but thr ee lamps and a table radio to pay the same for electricity as a factory wit h 25 lathes and arc welding all the time. there is no way to apportion the costs of maintaining this mechanism. So even if it worked, somehow the elec tricity must be put into wires. Otherwise it is not fair.

The Hendershot is a bunch of shit.

There is one type of generator that will run without fuel for years, but it is still not forever. It is just that they use something you don't have to put in, there is no magic involved nor is there free energy, just like a d ry cell battery. Problem is the cost. It is said they run like seven years, and they cost like a million bucks or so, which actually depends on capaci ty. Now divide a million bucks into 84 months and check that against your e lectric bill. Another thing that just ain't worth it.

This latest doodad (in the OP that is) seems like it wants to trick the ele ctric meter. Well they have had a long time to get the design right on thos e and there is no ore tricking them. In fact a couple of my family members tried. We are not talking dumb people here and they knew that no power fact or doodad was going to work. They tried with huge rectifiers going to a ve ry heavy load, to magnetise the poles of the movement. Didn't work.

The doodad in the OP might have fooled electric meters back in Tesla's time , but I am pretty sure it ain't happening now. In fact if you are a big ele ctric user the power company will get on your case if the power factor is t oo out of hand. In some places they will require you to correct it, or do i t for you and bill you.

And it would be a strange circumstance where 82 % would be possible even in Tesla's time. You would have to have a huge transformer running nothing or something like that. Put a load on it I guarantee you will not get more po wer out than you put in.

I don't mean to get snotty or anything but I assume the OP is in the US and went to US schools. The science education here is very poor. Even the firs t law of thermodynamics, not only do people not understand it, they don't u nderstand how it would apply to other branches of science.

I really wonder how much money is made on this bullshit.

Looks like plain jane capacitive power factor correction to me...

"Your electric utility provides working (kW) and reactive power (kVAR) to your plant in the form of apparent power (kVA). While reactive power (kVAR) doesn?t register on kW demand or kW hour meters, the utility?s transmission and distribution system must be large enough to provide the total power. Utilities have various ways of passing the expense of larger generators, transformers, cables, switches, and the like, along to you."

TESLA'S DARKEST SECRET: he was mostly a crackpot who got lucky a few times.

ALTERNATE THEORY: Tesla was a genius who crossed the line to bloomin' crazy.

I find that theory acceptable, too.

In 1931 he wrote of Edison:

"His method was inefficient in the extreme, for an immense ground had to be covered to get anything at all unless blind chance intervened and, at first, I was almost a sorry witness of his doings, knowing that just a little theory and calculation would have saved him 90 percent of the labor."

I find this more than a little ironic considering that he'd been working on high energy far-field wireless power transmission for decades; but I'm pretty sure that classical EM theory was well-developed enough by the early 1900s that he could've sat down with Maxwell's equations and looked at the impedance of free space and characteristics of isotropic radiators and Poynting vectors and stuff and thought "Oh, right, that seems impossible doesn't it."

In his later years his eccentricity seems to have morphed into a pretty severe case of "Howard Hughes Reclusive Genius Disease", whatever the technical term is for that.

Nah.

Nah. Tesla loved playing with resonant circuits. Reading the patent, he experimented with using an inductor coil's winding self-capacitance to obtain resonance, and he found the self capacitance to be too small to be useful, so he devised a simple way to dramatically increase it. Many of us would not find this useful, as we usually work to minimize capacitance, which wastes power. At any rate, it's hard to see any applicability to household wiring.

As far as I know, no utility company in the US bills for reactive power "used" by residential customers.

Also, at least for me the site linked uses one of those sad and annoying popups that implores you not to leave after you try to close the page out, so stuff these guys.

Is that where that audio file lead to ? I stopped listening after the guy wanted to tell me who Tesla was and I couldn't forward to the chorus part of his story. The only thing I was thinking was the power factor correction idea which we've seen over and over again and know that it doesn't help as you mentioned.

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...and that demo with all of the lights, indicates resonant coupling.

Yep, typical free-energy-plans scam, ONLY $49!!!!

Says who?

Not Tesla.

In modern terms, Tesla had labeled the far-field wireless power technique with the term "Hertzian," and he disparaged it as being worthlessly lossy: radiating nearly all it's energy off into space.

Tesla's system had nothing to do with such things. In fact, Tesla repeatedly states that his design-goal was to completely eliminate the far-field "Hertzian" losses. At one point claimed that he'd got them down to roughly 3% of the total output. This for a worldwide system. (Note that the US utility grid is only about 40% efficient.)

What was Tesla's system? It was entirely nearfield, i.e. "non- Hertizan." But just try to find any article which explains the details. (Tesla was keeping them secret.)

Instead, authors ignore that Tesla's system was secret, and instead they base their writing on personal speculation: leaping to the strange idea that it was a simple radio transmitter, and insisting that Tesla was too crazy/too stupid to understand basic EM limitations. They were even doing this during Tesla's lifetime, over his heated objections.

When Tesla repeatedly stated that his system had nothing to do with radio transmission, he meant exactly that. Unfortunately there were no details revealed about his system until the late 1980s, when an engineer finally bothered to go to the Tesla Museum in Beograd and read about them. No, the central "secret" wasn't revealed, but even so, much detail was sitting right there in the docs for anyone to read.

Yep. Tesla apparently knew this problem already, possibly even knew it before anyone else. That's why he disparaged that technique, and why he became angry when others accused him of using it.

Right, reclusive. Sitting in a well-known, even famous public NYC apartment, undefended (well, you'd have to knock on his door,) taking interviews, discussing his inventions with a string of youngsters and crazy inventors, inviting the press in on his birthday, consulting for years with Hammond's son on remote control and military applications. Sounds pretty reclusive, eh?

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OK OK, what was Tesla's system? Simple. It was a ~30KM vertical gas discharge, some sort of lightning-bolt effect he'd apparently developed at his Colorado Springs laboratory.

Um. WHAT?!!!

Yep, you heard right. Tesla's great secret apparently was a method for producing a continuous vertical lightning (or glow- discharge?), one that was long enough to make direct conductive contact with the ionosphere. So, 30-50KM scale. His large tower was supposed to use this discharge to *conductively* connect to the (conductive) ionosphere, much like running a wire up to the sky, then using the sky and ground as two immense capacitor- plates. When in operation, there'd be a ~10KHz vertical e-field appearing everywhere on Earth, with flux of at least a couple hundred V/M. It woudln't be enough to light a fluorescent tube unless it was connected to a longwire antenna. (Or, use a high-Q resonator and a much smaller antenna with enormous EA.)

Utterly simple. And utterly impossible, of course ...unless Tesla had genuinely stumbled upon some physics trick that allowed it to actually work. It's easy to build a 10KHz worldwide nearfield wireless power system, if first you have a simple way to make direct conductive contact with the distant ionosphere.

The details on this came out when Leyland Anderson found them spread among the Tesla docs in the Beograd museum. Most impressive was an extensive legal deposition Tesla made in 1917, during the Marconi debacle. See:

Here's a drawing of Tesla's small prototype of his "world wireless" system, presented 1/1898 to the Examiner-in-chief of the USPTO, who had earlier refused to allow Tesla's patents on the system.

It was two Tesla coils connected by a partially-evacuated glass pipe many yards long. "Wireless," but only in the way that a neon sign-tube used as a power line is "wireless."

So, that's probably why all the authors writing about Tesla are always getting it wrong. Tesla's method was 1. not radio,

1. secret, and 3) not published or even publicized by the Tesla Museum, requiring that researchers actually travel there if they wanted to learn anything about it.

And: 4), so profoundly crazy and impossible that most people wouldn't accept that Tesla was seriously basing all his large project on vertical lightning bolts long enough to touch the ionosphere.

Heh, in hindsight we can go and look at the 1980s movie which was made with help from the Beograd Tesla Museum: "Tajne Nicole Tesle" It shows an animated reconstruction of Tesla's system in action, including the ten-kilometer lightning bolts being fired at the horizon and producing vast Aurora effects across the sky. The secret is not to bang the rocks together, the secret is to aim your ion-beams straight up. WTF WAS INSIDE THAT HOLLOW SPHERE?!! see:

Also, here's an illustration from a 2001 Serbian-language book on Tesla. Yep, vertical glow-discharge:

Yep, just "magic physcs," scammy.

Hmmm. What if we connected a 100KHz fet chopper directly to 120VAC. How wo uld typical WH meters respond? Next, add a high-freq transformer in serie s, massage the output back to 60Hz sine output, and run your refrigerator.

If their claims weren't pure fabrications, then this device really truly wo rks ...as power theft! It may screw up the utility meter which was expecti ng instantaneous V x I sine 120Hz and perhaps some harmonics. Instead, pu ll some giant brief high-amp pulses, dump them through a step-up xfrmr, and pretend that the energy costs nothing and is coming from nowhere.

I'M NOT GONNA TRY IT you try it. FOR ONLY FORDDIENAN DOLLA

Correctly.

Doubt.

Evidence?

You're the one making the absurd claim. Do you really think a 60Hz motor is going to care much about 100kHz? Do you even know how a power meter works?

Nope, read again. I asked a question, and you made a claim about WH meter behavior. I doubt you, and ask for evidence.

You can't supply any? Really? Hmm. You might be another incompetent SED troll, giving BS answers based on pure ignorance.

But, I could be wrong. It's easy to show that I am: evidence please.

Dumbass, you made the claim that they don't. They indeed do.

Dumbass.

You are. It's a freaking motor!