We are stardust

It doesn't. Complex life chemistry is all about energy flows. Without a nearby star there's no energy flowing, so all that complex chemistry is stone cold dead. If it eventually drifts close enough to a star it may get exploited by something a little bit closer to a living thing.

The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals apart.

No, think 'big bang' for a moment.,

There IS a VERY big energy source working all the time. And is what causes things to expand, I think Le Sage, but go for dark energy and dark matter theory if you want...

And finally our 'big bang' is likely not the only one with other radiation from other big bangs and galaxies everywhere, like water molecules in an ocean (bit strange compare but OK).

What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..

And what else is possible? We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen And we are all connected. We, like an ant in the garden...

But none of the life we know about exploits any of that. The stuff we know about on earth pretty much entirely exploit the the energy we get from the sun. There are creatures that exploit other energy sources, but they are clearly descended from the main stream that exploits solar energy.

It's possible that it isn't the only one - every black hole could surround a new universe - but speculations about inacessible universes are a waste of time.

You'd probably find it a bit more fascinating if you knew a little more about it, but your current level of ignorance suggests you'd need quite a few human lifetimes to get there.

An ant in the garden relies on chemical signalling - pheromones - to a much greater extent than we do, so it's not a good example.

Jan Panteltje schreef: |----------------------------------------------------------------------| |"[. . .] but go for dark energy and dark matter theory if you want..."| |----------------------------------------------------------------------|

I am a professional physicist under a supervisrix who professes to work on dark matter, and persons who do not bother to report correctly profess that I be dedicated to dark matter.

Dark-matter professionals are dishonest and evil.

"This was my first attempt to express in the scientific literature my concerns for the viability of the dark matter paradigm, and my puzzlement that the only theory to get any genuine predictions right was MOND. It was the hardest admission in my career that this could be even a remote possibility. Nevertheless, intellectual honesty demanded that I report it. To fail to do so would be an act of reality denial antithetical to the foundational principles of science." says

"That’s a painful process, and there is an urge in human nature to deny such things, to pretend they never happened, or to assert that what was wrong was right all along." says

"It often happens that data are ambiguous and open to multiple interpretations. The evidence for dark matter is an obvious example. I frequently hear permutations on the statement

| We know dark matter exists; we just need to find it.

This is said in all earnestness by serious scientists who clearly believe what they say. They mean it. Unfortunately, meaning something in all seriousness, indeed, believing it with the intensity of religious fervor, does not guarantee that it is so.

The way the statement above is phrased is a dangerous half-truth." says

"Kuhn noted that as paradigms reach their breaking point, there is a divergence of opinions between scientists about what the important evidence is, or what even counts as evidence. This has come to pass in the debate over whether dark matter or modified gravity is a better interpretation of the acceleration discrepancy problem." says

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No, think 'big bang' for a moment.,

There IS a VERY big energy source working all the time. And is what causes things to expand, I think Le Sage, but go for dark energy and dark matter theory if you want...

And finally our 'big bang' is likely not the only one with other radiation from other big bangs and galaxies everywhere, like water molecules in an ocean (bit strange compare but OK).

What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..

And what else is possible? We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen And we are all connected. We, like an ant in the garden...

Yes, I always look for a mechanism, not so much for equations That is perhaps why I fell for Le Sage right away

I see the center of a galaxy spitting out 2 arms like a garden sprinkler in _not_ empty space_ but some substance (call it dark matter for those who like that).

I would say its is the Le Sage particles! Clock speed changes are predicted by a Le Sage model as matter gets more compressed by those in free space and less near a heavy object, but then clock speed should wobble more, as clocks are hit by LS particles from low (intercepted by the nearby mass) and high flux side (free space),

So far Le Sage explains a lot, including internal heating of objects far from the sun that are not 'squeezed' by other objects. Normally this is attributed to radioactive processes in those objects But then again, what causes those :-)

Would be nice to see what human beings, if those live that long, use for theory in a thousand years Or maybe by then all live in grass huts again,,,

Wow, some text..

I am no astrolgist? whatever. Even from electronics I do things just from things I did, tested, tried in the past, some very good books, and many years of fixing and repairing stuff others designed. A big plus, have see most of it and where it failed, what DID work.

But astronomy is an interesting thing, have worked in so many fields helping or designing electronics from military, space, radio, TV, medical and some more. In all cases you had to understand in depth what needed to be done, what the theory was (if any) I always liked the experience, learning, have some curiosity. And always need a mechanism, either electrons moving or Le Sage particles moving.. Sure you can dream up any equation that describes what you see, modify it to ever more precise fit observation But that does NOT mean it is correct. like epicycles once. Without a _mechanism_ it is all crap, including Albert's only stone, singularities, THERE ARE NO INFINITIES IN NATURE, SOMETHING WILL ALWAYS BREAK DOWN. Space is not curved... time does not change.. parrots! sure clocks run at different speed Le Sage's mechanism explains that You do not need a lot of math to explain an electron tube, you do need to know about electrons and charge.

On sciencedaily.com there are links to papers almost every day about many different things, including dark matter. I like reading all that stuff..

Oh and you do not need El Tea Spices That is like a tennis player against a guy with a book full of equations.

But we don't. It would we nice if it did exist, but a convenient explanation is just words.

There are a lot of phenomena that dark matter does explain, but until we find some actual dark matter it's just a convenient hypothesis.

Getting excited about a convenient hypothesis isn't sensible.

Modified Newtonian gravity is another plausible hypothesis, but until we nail down a modification that explains as many inconvenient observations as dark matter does it's a bit too open-ended to get excited about either.

Ment as an indicating of size versus world they (we live in). We have a big bigger brain.. and know a bit more. But then who will survive longer ? Some insects have been shown to survice in free space outside the ISS. Those insects did not even know how to make space-suits ;-)

Some years ago I was following some of the lectures on youtube about astronomy, have a look!

Deep sea volcanic vents are another possibility for the origin of life.

Tardigrades are not quite arthropods or insects - they are much older and more primitive. Incredibly resilient in their dormant 'tun' state.

Nice article, It also says this: In 2019, a capsule containing tardigrades in a cryptobiotic state was on board the Israeli lunar lander Beresheet which crashed on the Moon.[24]

So, apart from moon-dust the next moon travellers will have Tardigrades to watch out for? Or for dinner? There is some water / ice I have read near the Moon's poles? That Artemis mission is on the launch-pad now... Will it work?

Does it make any sense?

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

Not to John Larkin. He's not into scientific inquiry.

Artemis? It could, if people actually land on the moon again, create some respect for the US. But it will be nullified by the King Kong crap in the war house. And landing on the Moon with Artemis 3 is planned for 2027-2028, see:

Maybe other simpler more reliable propulsion systems will outdate Artemis, Think nuclear propulsion, NASA did tests with that long ago, those were cancelled due to nuke fear, Now with that ape in command when all will soon glow, bit of extra radiation will make no difference.