Vista wireless problem

May 16, 2009 19 Replies

I'm having problems with a new (6 weeks old) Vista laptop on my wireless nertwork.



The network works OK with XP machines and with a new Linux eeepc.



The vista laptop works fine for news, email and bit torrents. I can ping the internet. Web access is intermittent and keeps dropping out. For example I can ping my adsl router but not access it in firefox or IE using its IP address.



I just tried accessing a bank using https rather than http. I got an error message that the security cert was invalid for

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which also didn't work. So I guess it is not just port 80 that is being screwed.



I've turned off the windows firewall and I am using Avast as a virus scanner.



Any thoughts appreciated.


Posting in a Vista related group would be a good start.

A better way would be to dump that MSFT virus called Vista and get either XP or Linux.

Had same problem. Have one computer on XP and new laptop on Vista. Old router was the problem. New router corrected problem. WW

Have you run a virus scan on the Vista machine after having it connected to the network? It may be that the machine has a virus or

10 on it.

Does it run really slow?....no wait Vista always runs slow.

It could be that the Microsoft servers were down and the machine could send all of your personal information to Bill Gates. Vista doesn't work well unless it can communicate with the company.

You're an idiot, boy.

Delete network connection. Re-establish new network connection. Problems depart.

That didn't work. Web still drops out. I'm listening to streaming audio from the bbc website and am unable to access anything else.

I'll see if there is a vista firmware upgrade for the router.

The network stack was rewritten in Vista to adhere to the RFC's, problem is there are little bugs in the berkley stack that was used in the early routers. Most have firmware updates to solve this problem.

The usual problem is getting a DHCP address.

Cheers

I don't understand that as a cause.

Once I've got a DHCP address why should it suddenly lose it? If it did lose it wouldn't usenet, email and streaming audio etc also stop working? If I set the laptop to a fixed IP would that be a temporary fix to prove that this is the problem?

The router is up to date. I'll have to see if the Hawking wireless extender and netgear access point I use to get the signal around the house can be up dated.

The BSD TCP/IP stack was so fundamental to the development of TCP/IP that several of its bugs resulted in the later RFCs being written to match the BSD stack rather than the earlier RFCs (the handling of the urgent pointer being the best known example).

Also, BSD isn't widely used in routers. The early routers didn't have much of a "stack" (routers only need to understand IP; they only need UDP and TCP for higher-level functionality such as telnet or web access, DHCP, etc, not for routing). More recent ones (particulary home/small-office types) tend to be based upon Linux. And the very high-end ones implement most of the stack in silicon.

Your problem is (trying to use) Vista. Use ANY other OS, including -no- os and there will be at least an order of magnitude LESS problems.

most likely because you have maxed out your wireless stream... plug directly into the router and try that.

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Microsoft's latest operating systems, Windows Vista and Windows 7, uses TCP window scaling for non-http (web) connections. So do Linux kernels from versions 2.6.8 on. This behavior is incompatible with some firewalls that use SPI (Stateful Packet Inspection) as found in routers like the Checkpoint NG R55, Cisco PIX earlier than v6.3.1, NetApp Cache Appliances, SonicWall, D-Link DI-724U, Netgear WGR614, and Linksys WRT54GS.[1] This may be related to previous failures to work properly. Pre-released (beta) versions of Vista allegedly had more problems, including failed http (web) connections through SPI firewalls.[2]

I'd suggest checking for a firmware update for the router first. A stateful firewall is pretty much essential for desktop systems. It's also essential if you need to use more than one computer with a single IP address.

dd-WRT upgrades the Linksys WRT45GS to a professional capability. One would think that it accepts scaled window connections.

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That's right, swallow every drop now... There's a good boy!

Pavlov would have been proud of our lapdog, little old incontinent 'dimbulb'. He salivates on command, and happily rolls in his on dung, on cue. All for the slightest bit of attention.

You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

It doesn't really even count as a hit when trolling any more.

I'll bet she's foaming at the mouth, and posting more senseless crap, though.

You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

So when are you going to upgrade it to XP?

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They generally have lifetimes. Generally most OS's request a lease refresh and receive it. Vista forgets sometimes.

Not necessarily. The router still has to play ball and must be configured to do so.

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