Verizon Dumping Usenet Servers

I am quite sure that they are quite a bit MORE versed in such operations than you ever were or ever will be.

They read reams more than you do in one year compared to your entire, pathetic life, and they certainly understand it better.

Reply to
Archimedes' Lever
Loading thread data ...

General Instrument was sued as a monopoly for the Digicipher decoder modules that get used by the ENTIRE industry for satellite receiver feed decoding, since their gear is used universally to encode what gets put onto the birds by the uplink dishes.

The suit failed. GI (now Motorola) was a monopoly by default, and by no fault of their own. Giving up the details of the decoder would break their system, so all the receiver makers have to bite the bullet and PAY for it and MUST incorporate it into their products in order for them to work.

You cannot blame GI for the fact that the entire industry bought their uplink gear, and you cannot force them to reveal anything about their gear either. It just ain't right.

So they ARE a monopoly by default, and NO, it is not a bad thing.

There are no TELCO monopolies in place so you can't even get that argument right (whoever contends this crap).

Reply to
Archimedes' Lever

they just

minimum

can't

coax?=20

does

say to

linesmen

experience

right=20

power=20

the=20

Here.

Please remember, you were talking to always wrong.

Reply to
JosephKK

they just

minimum

can't

coax?

owned by

by

cable

30 years ago sure. You need to see the new cute ones, barely over a foot in any dimension.
Reply to
JosephKK

mile

issues

the

Oh it exists. Actually rather common IF you can figure out where to look. Not cheap though, mostly custom/tailor made, but there are still several vendors.

Reply to
JosephKK

Yes, that raging idiot AG from NY, Cuomo i think. And the multitude of other similarly placed idiots.

Reply to
JosephKK
.

And I suppose you all have spent enough time in elective office to have observed your targets to have proven this?

Jim

Elected office from Kindergarten through this year

Reply to
RST Engineering - JIm

just

They weren't any larger 30 years ago, but there were a lot of loops in the TELCO trunkline, below their strand. Add sag in the summer on an overloaded strand and you barely had a foot clearance.

--
You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

Riddle"

:

Per SMS is limited to 140 B per instance. It is usually only us $0.05 each. But with the kids sending several per day each over many million kids, the total income is significant. Call it 10M kids sending 10 SMS per day, that is about $ 5 million dollars per day.

Reply to
JosephKK

If you only are interested in text and a.b.s.e try looking for a "block" account. You can get 10 GB total for US$5 and it may last you for multiple years, see newsdemon. There are similar accounts also available from astraweb, usenet-news, and probably others.

Reply to
JosephKK

One has to be elected to office to see that Charlie Rangel is a crook? What a moron.

Ah, so you're "someone special", because you got enough fools to vote for you to get you elected dog catcher. Simply amazing.

Reply to
krw

They don't have to. But they have to listen to their constituents. If unhappiness festers they have to do something about that.

If it's on public rights of way, yes. If garbage collection isn't reliable, are you of the opinion they should also just paper that over and leave everything as is? IMHO that would be rather un-American ;-)

You (or someone else?) here in the NG have proven that point yourself recently. Where the company store basically told you to just go away. That can only happen in monopoly-like situations.

I have explained how it's done in my professional fields. You may not understand that but miraculously it works well, thanks to procedures and standards. We seem to be doing something right there, aren't we?

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
Reply to
Joerg

Ok, you don't believe me or others here and you said "That depends on the existing utility poles. A three foot minimum clearance between utilities is required. Without that, workers can't safely install or maintain each utility or service."

Maybe some reading would be in order at this point:

formatting link

Now tell us, where exactly is the three feet between telephone and cable TV?

Or in this picture? Obviously, no three feet.

formatting link

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
Reply to
Joerg

Do you have any proof that things are festering, or is this just another of your hard-ons against cable TV? I ran the camera for live township meetings for four years in Delhi Township, a suburb of Cincinnati, Ohio. We had a total of two complaints, both groundless. The first was a woman who demanded that cable be provided for free, 'Since you you the phone wires'. The other demanded that our franchise be revoked immediately, because we had dropped the 'ARTS' channel. It had been shut down by the owner (CBS) because it was hemorrhaging money. He demanded that we had to either return the channel which was part of the lowest tier package, or shut down the system. Even after we had sent him copies from CBS that they had shut it down he was yelling that we were responsible to keep providing it.

Two other complaints came direct to us. One was a drunk that had to be arrested for attacking a man on our line crew who was working in sub zero weather repairing suckouts. He pulled our worker out of the hole in the ground and demanded that he fix his cable, first. The other was when we replaced our weather RADAR display (From the Cincinnati airport) with the weather channel. He claimed that he was a former meteorologist who used the weather RADAR every day, even though the airport had shut down the loop we were on, and the same data had been on display for over six months.

Garbage companies don't own millions of dollars worth of electronics. A lot are owned by the local governments, but a new company can come in overnight, or like some areas, you have five or six companies you can choose from.

You aren't making any sense. The company was on good terms with local governments, and both utilities. CATV isn't considered a utility.

And I've explained to you how things work in CATV, a business that you despise. Some of those standards evolved in the early days of telephone service. The work, even if you don't like them. there are valid reasons for all the standards, and were worked out between the various industries, long ago.

--
You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
Reply to
Michael A. Terrell

I believe I have made it clear that this was merely an example. They run their ship quite well. Except for the links from line to demarc, those are sometimes ghastly.

[...]

And then they have dozen of parked trucks. Those things are freaking expensive.

[...]

And I have pointed out in another post, including pictures, that the 3ft distance requirement you insist on is obviously not correct. It's simply not there, and doesn't have to be.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
Reply to
Joerg

10? You've got to be kidding. More than 100/day is more likely. That's because parents pay for just about everything a kid needs or wants these days. IMHO that is fundamentally wrong because it creates the illusion that everything is free and you don't have to work for it. This was different in my day. Way different.
--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
Reply to
Joerg

Michael, Pay Joerg no nevermind. He's still trying to recover from the shock of the digital TV conversion ;-)

...Jim Thompson

--
|  James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
|  Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
|  Phoenix, Arizona            Voice:(480)460-2350  |             |
|  E-mail Address at Website     Fax:(480)460-2142  |  Brass Rat  |
|       http://www.analog-innovations.com           |    1962     |
             
I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply to
Jim Thompson
[...]

No, we have just hung up on some TV consumption. So have lots of others in this neigborhood. This will cost in viewership numbers. Not very surprisingly, there have been personnel changes at some stations ...

Oh, and since DTV falls apart so often that recording doesn't make much sense anymore we found a new venue: You buy videos for a buck from the thrift store. They carry the good stuff, from the old days. Westerns and such. Watch them, then donate them back. Neighbors have picked up this habit as well and that way a single donated tape can generate more revenue for charity than the tape ever cost when new :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
Reply to
Joerg

I'm all DVD now (some 300 titles), except for a few "golden oldies" that have yet to make it to DVD.

Indeed we watch more movies than regular TV, though we watch Turner's classics pretty religiously... most of those can't be found in thrift stores.

...Jim Thompson

--
|  James E.Thompson, P.E.                           |    mens     |
|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
|  Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
|  Phoenix, Arizona            Voice:(480)460-2350  |             |
|  E-mail Address at Website     Fax:(480)460-2142  |  Brass Rat  |
|       http://www.analog-innovations.com           |    1962     |
             
I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply to
Jim Thompson

=20

nowadays=20

You must not be seeing the same kids i am seeing. Too many of the kids i meet cannot tell a verb from a noun, let alone have anything the ability to discern the difference between a web link from an IP address.

address' is.

'netcat' in Unix.

1234 is reachable:

be=20

other.

manipulate the masses,=20

like 'leftist weenies',

in the next war.

and other fascists.

more...

murdering millions for a buck more.

in war

have what we have now.

Maybe it will be mollusc instead.

Reply to
JosephKK

ElectronDepot website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.