Two-transistor circuits--can we get to 100?

Aug 30, 2017 89 Replies

IIRC it was the collector of the same transistor that went negative. Of course you could hang a follower on it. ;)

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Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

Of course! a Darlington zener! pure genius. ;)

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Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

We can design complex systems using lots of optoisolators in lieu of transistors then.

NT

How about the old e-b junction zener as random noise generator trick?

Since this is a two-transistor challenge, use two, follow with a coincidence detector, and you've got the core of an infinite improbability drive.

(That should tie in nicely over on the Flat Earthers farce thread--build this & seed the universe with lifeforms galore.)

Cheers, James Arthur

Or stack two!

+12V -+- | +-------. | | .-. .-. R1 | | R2 | | '-' '-' | | |>' '-' SF1 .--| Q1 | | |\ |>' === '-----| Q2 |\ '----> V-

Cheers, James Arthur

This is actually a good practice, to reduce correlation. Use a complementary pair.

I have an old noise generator that uses a pair of 6D4 triode thyratrons for magnet biased noise generation. One is inverted, then both signals are summed and amplified to the output.

Tim

Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Contract Design Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com

GR?

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

yes, you are right. It could actually be used to de-IDss a JFET when no negative supply is available.

We had a nice discussion about this a couple years ago in a thread called "A very silly circuit." I bumped the thread.

Cheers, James Arthur

Not knowing the criteria I guess a simple flip flop might also qualify? Werner

Is the photon coupling idea known to be correct? There might be other mechanisms.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

Sure, it's just a low-beta isolated-base transistor. And slow.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

It's on the list already.

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Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

I don't know of anybody who's actually measured it. It might well be hot electrons rather than photons.

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Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

Nah, Elgenco. Seems to be more obscure? Probably not an unusual circuit for the day.

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Tim

Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Contract Design Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com

I was waiting patiently for someone to notice. That was a gag--SF1 = smiley face #1. :-)

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James Arthur

It says "bistable" but is that just set-reset or can you do a JK?

SR only. You need more gates for clocking and so on.

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Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

One can make a toggle (divide by 2) flipflop by capacitively coupling into both grids/bases. Done delicately, it has worked.

It's easier to do a divide-by-N by injection locking an astable, with just resistors or caps.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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