The Inconvenient Truth movie

Forget the tax, the mental midget has upped the national debt by two trillion making for $200B annual interest payments to our illustrious competitors in Asia and the Middle East. Then he helped get the world opium trade back on its feet by "liberating" Afganhstan, and this is financing a resurgence in Taliban activity there, so that's a down side, especially for the British. That hopelessly impoverished nation can barely equip a company sized military force in the hopes of suppressing a division sized guerrilla resistance- looks like they're heading for a repeat of that mid-19th century slaughter they suffered there once before.

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Well, then, clearly, legalizing drugs would pull the carpet out from under their finances. The only reason it's so lucrative is that it's illegal, and people want their drugs! So aa highly-professional smuggling trade appears; the harder the enforcement, the higher the risk, and the more money the ones that get through get paid. Legalize drugs, and the bottom would fall out of the price, and as a side bennie, the totally useless druggies will just OD and their rels can take care of their corpse or we could just toss them in a landfill. Recreational drug users know better than to OD, by the way.

But most importantly, the Taliban would go broke.

Think about it!

Cheers! Rich

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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria

I agree. Outright bans of things people want never work except in an extreme police state. Personal possession or use of things dangerous only to the individual should not be prohibited by laws which require serious erosion of liberty for enforcement. If it can only hurt the individual, just make sure education is widespread to promote informed choice, and health programs are available if and when it becomes a problem. Attempts to make money on such things can be made unprofitable by penalties and taxes. Activities that may be dangerous for others, such as driving or attempting to perform critical jobs while under the influence, certainly should be punished severely.

Much of this is based on Puritan heritage. Drugs that might cause happiness, laziness, and loss of productivity are especially targeted. One of the worst, nicotine, is tolerated because it is a performance enhancer (for some).

Paul

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Paul E. Schoen

In article , Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote: [....]

That may not even happen. With a purity requirement and labeling etc, many of the druggies would be like the controlled alcoholics we already have. They hold down jobs and make income and so on, just they are always partly lit.

Currently a druggy doesn't know from time to time how much is enough.

Also, there would be a trend away from the stronger drugs. If you a smuggling, a pound of drugs is alot easier to hide than a ton.

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Ken Smith

Oh, f*ck you! "purity reqirement"? "Labeling"???????????

What are you, a Big Brother bootlicker?

Absolute legalization! Get the government entirely out of the drug business, except maybe collect $1/ounce duty, and abolish the income tax.

But as far as purity and labeling, let the buyer beware! Caveat Emptor. They've known that since Roman times.

Why do americans refuse to clue up?

Thanks, Rich

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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria

No, I'm just rational.

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That is the surest way to keep the criminals involved. It will lead the reimposition of the laws and we will be right back where we are today. If the situation can't be made so that it will last why go to all the work of getting rid of the laws?

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Ken Smith

If you want to deregulate government regulation of safety-related issues, surely food would be a more appropriate first target. All those useless inspections for rat turds and insect parts.. buyer beware right?

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Spehro Pefhany

Well, they've never imprisoned anybody for eating rat turds, now have they? Why should they imprison someone who only wants to get high and hide?

Now, admittedly, if you're disorderly in public, or rob stores, well, those are already crimes anyway. And, of course, with legalization, the price will drop precipitously, and the druggies won't need to resort to crime because they can get their dose for pennies.

Thanks, Rich

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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria

Your proposal ignores Zymergy's Law Of Evolving System Dynamics: Once you open a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is to get a bigger can.

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JeffM

These days manufacturers are a lot more afraid of torts than they are of the USDA. There are only a couple thousand USDA inspectors but there are a few million bottom feeding lawyers advertising on TV. I imagine rat turds are about $10,000 a pop..

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gfretwell

The downward vortex sucks others into it. This is one topic where "Think of the children" is apt.

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JeffM

Are you one of the willess ones that the only reason you don't do stupid stuff is because it's illegal?

Are you one of the ones who would get sucked into the "downward vortex", and since drugs are legal, be incapable of preventing yourself from becoming a drug user?

In any case, arresting people who are harming no one other than themselves is just plain wrong.

Thanks, Rich

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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria

For those with reading comprehension problems, the word "CHILDREN" refers to young humans who are still dependent on adults.

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JeffM

Yeah, so? Don't they have adult supervision?

Every child of every family I've ever seen has two parents. So teach your kids not to do stupid stuff, just like you teach them to play the piano or read.

And if you're talking about druggies breeding, well, here we go again - child endangerment is already illegal, and there are a lot more alcoholic child abusers than drug addict child abusers.

Thanks, Rich

Sheesh! Rich

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Richard The Dreaded Libertaria

In article , Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote: [....]

You've obviously only seen a very limited subset of what is really out there.

Do you remember your teenage years?

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Ken Smith

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No, the FAA and NTSB would be easier to get rid of. All you have to do is take away their forms including the form they use to order more forms and they'd be powerless.

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Ken Smith

Reality is for people who cannot handle drugs.

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Don Lancaster

Acid consumes 47 times its weight in excess reality.

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AZ Nomad

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Reg Edwards

The worst thing they can do to protect children is to make drugs illegal. A dope dealer has nothing lose when he sells to or use kids to sell his product. The idea that we can stop it with laws is best contested by the total failure of the 300 billion dollar drug war we have waged over the last quarter century. In that time the price of heroin and cocaine actually dropped by a factor of about 100:1 when you scale in inflation and purity. In that time we have seen tremendous erosions of our privacy and rights. Millions have gone to jail and nothing was accomnplished. The same things people have their panties in a wad over with "homeland" and privacy have been SOP for the DEA for years.

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gfretwell

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