Tesla is fast

modern 40 ton diesel trucks average something like ~4km/l a liter of diesel is ~10kWh

My tiny Leaf can do around 3 miles per kWh. I don't think a fully loaded huge truck can do the same.

That liter of diesel will get you 2.5 to 3 miles. 10 kWh will get you 5 miles according to Tesla. 100 kWh, 500 miles.

To Ed, It is silly to think they are providing fuel consumption data for anything other than a fully loaded truck. The people they are providing data to aren't stupid.

That's for burning. But diesel engine is around 30% to 50% efficient for moving. 10kWh will get you 2 to 3 miles.

Now, you are being silly with your data.

In Denmark or Holland or Florida, maybe. In Switzerland or Colorado, not so much. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

For us imperialist: 4 * 3.78 * 0.62 = 9.37 miles per gal. That's pretty good. We used to deal with 5 to 6 mpg for big trucks. 30% of 37.8kWhr (1 gal) for moving is 9.37 miles for 12 kWhr or around 0.8 mile per kWhr.

It's only fast while there's enough Lithium and electricity to go around. These are both running very low.

It's going to be terrible when we use up all the electricity and have to do without. I don't know why no one is working on an electricity substitute. Maybe we can use fiber optics and channel light around to supply energy. There's always light, well, at least in the daytime.

We need to start recycling electrons.

As for light, why not a fiber optic cable from the other side of the world?

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They do not deplete, you stupid f*ck.

I always recycle my electrons. I also use only recycled electrons. I support a cleaner sub-atomic world.

Sound good to me. I use fiber optics from my neighbor's security light.

You seem perfectly able to read. If you have vision defects, enable the accessibility features of your browser so you don't get low-contrast text.

Because people who matter to me seemed inexplicably to be paying attention to you. I have no idea why, because you've still said nothing to deserve it.

If you want respect, you need to show some respect first.

When you write, you do it in the expectation that we will read. You expect us to spend the time to read your dribble, yet you are too lazy to do any reading yourself, so as to have something useful to say.

That is the epitome of disrespect, and it characterises almost *all* of your posts in this forum. I skip them, because they're almost always content-free.

Facts are good. I like facts. Unfortunately you choose not to seek or offer any.

Why do you care? It should be obvious that the truck owners, and the system's other investors, have done their due diligence and found that it is in fact a very real solution to a very real problem.

This can significantly reduce the cost of transport on Australia's heaviest route, while providing a positive ROI for everyone involved, from the first year. And you think that's not solving any problem, because allow no facts to penetrate your thick skull?

This method reduces the barrier for entry presented by the high cost of the batteries. The truck owners get their ROI more quickly than the system's investors, who own the batteries.

The conversion itself costs no more than an conventional engine swap/rebuild.

No you're not. In a conversation, people pay attention to the other side, and consider their response. You just dribble out whatever nonsense gets triggered by your false understanding of things.

I keep hoping against hope that one day you will reflect on what I've said (same on several occasions before, I might add), and will decide you no longer want to be such an incorrigible bore. Not to say boor.

CH

You are an arrogant ass. There are no useful features available. You are the one who wants to discuss the web page. If you can't be bothered to explain it, I'm not going to jump through hoops to read the damn thing.

Nope, you are the only one who is in this conversation with me. You seem rather obsessed with it. It has nothing to do with anyone else.

I literally have zero interest in your respect. Is that clear enough for you?

If you want to read and reply, fine. If you don't want to read and reply, that's fine too. But clearly, you can't not read what I write. You do seem to be rather in an odd state. You talk as if reading my posts hugely annoy you, yet you keep, not only reading, but replying. Yes, very odd.

You simply have no respect for my handicap which is very different from having no respect for me. You are clearly not the sort of person who I wish to converse with.

I don't see that at all. There are always people who get involved in bad ideas. Do you really not understand that??? If you don't understand that, you can't possibly judge useful projects from useless ones.

It may produce an ROI. That's not the question. Will it continue to produce an ROI and will it be an optimal ROI? I suppose if you have to have a solution today, then this might be useful. But I've already explained that this approach may not have legs and you may end up stuck with a lemon that has no support if the company goes under.

I haven't seen numbers, but I would be more interested in knowing if the ROI will continue after other solutions are available. Will this system remain competitive? I think the other systems will expand more quickly. Since Australia is a self contained, island country, it may turn out that this system becomes dominant there, while BEV trucks dominate in the rest of the world.

Ok, I am reflecting on what you say. I'm done with you. I've tried to participate in a reasonable conversation, but you insist on being highly insulting because of my handicap. You don't see it as important and that I should take the effort to read a web site intentionally made difficult to read, just so you can converse with me more easily. I think of your handicap the same way. Yours is a mental attitude, and that is often as incurable as any other disease.

It's not like you have anything useful to say anyway. Your comments are basically, that this system is good and other systems are not as good. Brilliant! What insight! Thank you for your wisdom.

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Increases size on every web browser I ever saw. Ctrl 1 thru 9 as well and Ctrl 0 resets it.

With the basic chassis ($50,000?), $85,000 conversion, $120,000 batteries, it's a 1/4 million truck. Doesn't matter who owns it, customers are indirectly paying for it.

BTW, Tesla Semi says less than 2kWhr/mile or more than 0.5mile per kWhr.

At the risk of asking a dumb question... how do they sync the speeds of the various motors? Does the vehicle have a single centralized servo controller, monitoring them all?

In which case, one might ask what's the failure mode, if that controller goes on the fritz -

Speed controllers do not need to be powerful. I don't see the need for a single central controller.