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What sort of bugs are you talking about???

I do agree with the article about one thing. People in Wyoming should not drive electric vehicles, either one of them. Wyoming should be the last bastion of ICE vehicles. They can drill their own oil, refine their own gasoline and make their own vehicles. Because the rest of the country will have switched to electric, there won't be gas pipelines or new cars from Detroit or Germany, or Japan. I'll be interested in seeing how that turns out.

Google pretty much sucks when it comes to planning a BEV trip. Very inadequate. Tesla, on the other hand, uses the Google map data and does a very good job of it. If you simply want to find chargers, Plugshare is pretty good. ABRP (a better route planner) does a better job than Tesla, in some ways. Tesla only (relatively) recently added waypoints, but still sucks for "what if" analysis. ABRP is probably still the best tool over all, but being built into the car is an advantage which is hard to beat.

If Tesla would fix their GD browser, so it doesn't crash every five minutes, crashing the display computer with it, you could run ABRP in the car and have the best of both worlds.

For such long trip in EV desert, I would carry a generator. In fact, I have a new (never used) one for years, just for emergency. The problem is that once used, I have to keep using it couple of time per month, to keep it in working order. I wonder if it's better to disassembly and clean the gasket after every use.

I don't understand. This is the sort of stuff that normally comes from some kneejerk ultra-conservative who hates anything new. Is this really Don Y?

I don't know if this is an example of another non-BEV owner complaining about some aspect of BEVs, or if this is just Bloggs' typical ill-informed posting.

What do you think Tesla is doing that is so inferior? Tesla gets any information they want, from millions of Teslas on the road, on every road, all the time, in different times of the day, different weather conditions, different driving styles. Google just has maps and reports of location.

You simply don't realize that Tesla is the juggernaut of information about BEVs, that you think Google *could* be. You are mistaken, Google doesn't have access to any internal information from the cars. Well, not until they release their car which everyone knows they have in the works. LOL

In the BEV world, Google is the rank amateur, because, like you, they don't own a BEV, or have access to data from anyone else's.

You are the joke, that everyone makes about BEVs towing a generator, with an extension cord plugged into the car. The key word in all this is "joke". Ed Lee stands alone in the BEV world.

How bizarre! Was she *pushing* the BEV? I've taken trips of 500 miles and only stopped for a hour total, where over half of that was to get a meal. I guess some people just can't learn new technology.

Usually, I am pointing out that the people complaining about BEV charging, are people who don't actually own a BEV. Well, those and Leaf owners perhaps. I think the max charging rate on the Leaf is only 50 kW. That's why Chademo chargers are only 50 kW in the US and probably everywhere.

So you are complaining that Tesla doesn't some of the data that Google doesn't have???

You have very strange thought processes.

But i don't need it often. Charging works 90% of the time. Towing works 9% of the time. Generating works 0.9% of the time. So, this cover 99.9% of the time.

Hard to find station/store for pure gasoline.

Clean with what? Gasoline or Alcohol?

how much amphetamine do you need to make 2000 miles with out breaks?

a wall of text with a long list of imaginary and improbable issues, who else? ;)

It's only 30 pounds, no need to tow it, but it take up cargo space and smelly. I can probably put it on roof top.

How so? Not enough power? How about adding octant booster?

Kind of defeating the backup purpose, if I can't just buy gas on the road.

It also will only propel your car at 10 MPH. That's the insanity of the way you drive your car. Most of us think of cars as expedient ways of getting from A to B. You think of the car as the purpose and getting somewhere is simply a side benefit. So, you don't mind doing insane things to charge the car.

Only Ed Lee.

He's talking about the small engines, like weed whackers, being built using material that are degraded by alcohol. Mostly it's the plastics in the fuel line, I believe. The gaskets are a fibrous material, but may have some plastic or rubber content, since that is what makes the valves for the gas pump. These things barely work.

A friend gave me a mower once, that had some starting issues. It would work, but once shut off, might not want to restart. I found by accident, that adding a bit more gas to the tank, would usually allow it to start. Turns out the flapper valve was in poor shape. With a full tank of gas, the difference in pressure was enough to pull some gas into the engine on starting, and of course, it was fine when it was running. But starting with less than an inch of gas and it just would not fire. Squirt some ether into the carb and it would take off. Put more gas in the tank and it would start.

I never replaced the carb gasket. I just kept more gas in the tank. lol

People don't buy cars for a once in a decade need. By 2040, you won't have a choice. Cars on the roads will be 95%+ BEVs, probably more like 99%+ and gas stations will be like charging today. You will need a trip planner to make sure you can get somewhere to buy gas, before you empty the tank.

Many people simply can't imagine that this change will happen rather quickly, as paradigm changes go. It will also be nearly total, as ICE require too much infrastructure to maintain for small numbers of vehicles.

Even with only 90% BEVs on the road, imagine 90% of gas stations closed. 90% of ICE repair garages closed. It will be hard to find oil and filters. That's the sort of stuff stores don't make much money on, but they carry to get people in the store, where they buy other things. Once the sales volume drops, there's no longer a reason to take up so much shelf space. It will be like vacuum tube, where you order from Russia, because they are the only ones making them.

There's no reason to rush out and buy a BEV today. But don't kid yourself that you will continue to have a choice in 15 to 20 years. Industries don't support loners.

there's a reason why truck drivers are required to take 45 minutes rest every 4.5hours

In the US, it's 30 minutes "somewhere" in the first 8 hours, 11 hours total within 14 hours of starting. There are a few people who just insist on driving as short a time as possible, rather than considering how well they feel at the end of the trip. I've driven 500 miles in a day with no trouble, but I don't try to kill myself. In fact, I enjoy a stop with a proper meal, so 45 minutes. That's actually a bit tight, since the charging is often done in 30 minutes. I have to set the charge limit to 90% or even 100% to not be hurried. That's the part of charging I don't like, it goes a bit too fast. Tesla may charge you idle fees after the car stops charging.

One trucker I discussed this with claimed he would lead a fleet of big rigs hauling some setup for

Whoops.

This trucker claimed they drove 16 hours with no breaks, other than one fuel stop. Very illegal, and very unlikely. The guy was probably full of BS.

The point being discussed was that Tesla claims their trucks will go 500 miles on a full charge when fully loaded. The driver is required to stop for 30 minutes in the first 8 hours, which allows 300 miles to be charged. This gives enough range so the limit is on the driver's hours (11 for the day). The range doesn't need to keep up with diesel trucks, it only needs to keep up with the driver.