Tesla is fast

What is your "sensible" car at £6K? Does it have four wheels? Three? Two? There are electric cars at lower prices than £25K. You do have to be willing to look for them though. I expect that's not going to happen since it is you we are talking to.

This is the silly talk we typically get from this poster.

No, you should wait another hundred years. I want to see your grip on the steering wheel fossilized.

It is hard to find a more ignorant person, even in this group.

That's not so much what is happening, as much as it is simply optimizing for the market. In electronics there are always early adopters who can justify a more expensive unit. Tesla was selling a $35,000 car they made virtually no money on. Then they stopped selling that version. As the market heated up they stopped selling the next lower priced version. I think there was a third version they stopped selling.

It is a well known fact that there is more profit in the luxury cars sold at higher prices. This is what Tesla is doing, rather than simply raising prices to make more money. It only costs a bit more to add the various features, but these features bring a lot higher price.

On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 19:36:15 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote: ...

According to this the cheapest car in the UK is about £11.5k.

You could not buy 6 new cars for $47k. And most people don't just buy the bare minimum car as can be seen from the average price. You also can't meaningfully compare radically dissimilar cars as much of the cost is not just in the propulsion system.

No oil changes? No brake checking. What about mandatory smog or MOT tests - do you ignore those as well?

That's your privilege.

kw

Probably not but the battery costs are declining and like likely to go further (albeit with blips caused by current world problems)

Nobody is forcing you to buy one.

kw

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They are actually not that inflated - Apple's prices are competitive with similar offerings from top tier vendors such as Samsung. In general Apple chooses not to sell the lower cost products in any market so their average prices may seem to be higher.

Similarly Tesla's prices are comparable with other top tier car makers. People buy Tesla cars because they meet their needs better than most others and they avoid some of the issues with pricing that other makers suffer from such as predatory markups from their car dealer network. There have been articles about $50,000 dealer markups for some popular but difficult to obtain models.

kw

Websites are cheap. Even I've got one. The climate change denial propaganda movement is well funded, and could afford a few. Recruiting a few nutters who were silly enough to take the invented tree-huggers seriously wouldn't be all that expensive either. The environmental equivalents of Cursitor Doom and John Doe must exists, and they will be just as willing to believe in bogus nonsense as those two are. Different bogus nonsense, but equally bogus.

Especially when they can sell them multiple times, once to each owner. They're f****ng criminals.

Bullshit. I used to own a Dacia Sandero. It was £6K. The 4WD version my father still owns, the Duster, that was £10K.

They're morons. BMW hasn't even invented FWD yet. And they're no better than a VW, at a fraction of the price.

I'm comparing the cheapest car I can get that will do a sensible range on petrol or electricity.

No.

If the car stops when I press the pedal, why would it need checked?

Not exactly, but you can bend them a bit.

It's called common sense. People who buy new tech are fools that fund it for the rest of us.

I bought an expensive car because it's what I wanted. I could have bought a model 3 for $35,000 and would already have saved $4,000 on fuel expenses. In another six years I'll have saved $10,000, bringing the effective price to $25,000 and still dropping. I drove my last vehicle 250,000 miles. That would equate to $25,000 savings making the Tesla model 3 effectively a $10,000 car. Yeah, and it's such a nicer car to drive than a Romanian Yugo replacement.

As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket. And what world problems? There aren't any real ones, just ones caused by silly governments.

It irritates me anyone buys that s*it. Especially when someone with an Iphone tries to email me a photograph.

Samsung inflate equally. I have a £30 phone which equals a £250 Iphone or Samsung.

Yes, those round corners and brushed aluminium make it worth much more.

They're no better, they're just a thing to show off like a Ferrari.

How is that predatory?

Lithium isn't going to run out. The increasing demand is currently increasing prices, but miners are responding by opening new lithium mines (and reactivating old ones).

Supply and demand will work its usual magic.

I have bought a £500 car that has lasted 5 years so far.....

Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment opportunity won't tell you that.

Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried salts have useful concentrations of that element There's lots of those, and the most economic are being mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade. The metal isn't rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a big premium.

This guy just digs himself in a hole, deeper and deeper, showing his extreme ignorance.

He reminds me of DLUNU or whatever goofy name the guy goes by. I think people call him "always wrong". I think there's a new owner of that title.

Decadent Linux User Numero Uno has his vices, but ignorance isn't one of them. Krw liked to label him "always wrong" but the tittle fitted krw a whole lot better.