RoHS => tin whiskers?

No, the model was 2000kN = 200T of plane (on approach to land) at

If we used a fully laden plane travelling at 600kph, that would bring it to 0.75m deflection, which is the max allowable wind drift for this particular structure. His conclusions: structural integrity maintained, but shitloads of damage.

looks like you need explosives to bring down a big building with an airplane :)

Cheers Terry

thats what my version says, I just listened to it :)

Are you saying that the Twin Towers was destroyed by explosives, and not the plane (which had the explosives inside)?

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I took it to mean that he was mocking the twin-towers conspiracy wackos.

some of those "wackos" are professors of civil engineering at prestigious british universities, who raise some uncomfortable questions:

- how come not once, in the history of tall buildings, has a building ever collapsed onto its own footprint, yet 3 did that day (there are 3-4 companies worldwide with the skills to make this happen; we've all seen the discovery channel)

- one of them wasnt even hit by a plane

- look closely at the footage (frame by frame). its interesting: - why does the antenna tower begin to collapse first? - what are the interesting, sequenced puffs seen spurting from the side of the building in descending order? - how come the concrete was so finely powdered?

- why werent the steel beams tested post-collapse? civil engineers are usually all over this sort of stuff, but instead the beams were taken away and melted down, pronto.

- has a country ever faked this sort of shit before to start a war?

- who has materially benefitted from the WOT? and to what extent?

Do I think a bunch of lunatic religious freaks flew planes into the WTC? of course. Do I think that alone resulted in the collapse? not convinced.

If you buy the 9/11 commissions report re. the actual structural failure mechanism, answer me this: why didnt the top portions fall off?

From a big-picture perspective, I dont really care, it aint my country. Besides, with all its jack-booting around the globe, it had to happen to the US eventually. In that regard it was quite impressive, and a very clever trick.

Luckily these religious nutcakes are way, way too stupid to be very effective. Hmm, thats not clear I am referring to the terrorists, is it.

I'm also quite glad my little country hasnt got anything the US government really wants.

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:05:21 +1200, Terry Given Gave us:

You're an idiot. WHEN in history was several decades of floors dropped onto the floors below? That is what caused the collapse, dumbfucktard. Once several hundred tons of something get dropped, a chain reaction occurs on the subsequent floors. Get a clue.

You're a goddamned idiot.

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:05:21 +1200, Terry Given Gave us:

You're an idiot.

Left overs to catch kooks like you.

You're retarded.

They were, dumbfuck.

They were, dumbfuck.

You're an idiot.

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:05:21 +1200, Terry Given Gave us:

Like the top portion of you? The part that had any brains...

I suspect it is more about grandstanding, helping the sheeple think that the office holder really votes the party line.

Anyone who still thinks they have any privacy never read a credit report or saw the medical record clearing house dump your insurance company gets. Computers have given clerks the ability to track virtually anything you do unless it is a face to face transaction, in cash and away from a surveillance camera, which could be 100 miles UP. There is a very good chance they are still tracking the cash if you are moving very much at one time. The $10,000 thing is just a guideline. The IRS/DEA (and I suppose "homeland" these days) looks at any large cash transaction to or from a financial institution. Certainly anything you transmit over the air or onto the internet is trivial to intercept, even by marginally qualified snoops.

Just get naked and enjoy the attention. ;-)

JVC was among the first to hit the UK market with massive loss-leaders to destroy the home manufacturers, the build quality was excellent and the reliability legendary - now our domestic manufacturing base has all been driven out of business the nips can throw it together any which way they could be bothered!

"tin plague" was mentioned a few times but I couldn't find the post it was explained in - please can someone elaborate?