Re: Are TS555's really supposed to suck this much?

Yep. I used to do my own layouts and cut and peel the Rubylith myself.

Maybe a hundred transistors maximum. Now my chip designs number in the tens of thousands of transistors ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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The article seems to have gotten itself into Hans Camenzind's 2004 book "Designing Analog Chips" ISBN 978-1-58939-718-7

I saw his in action back in my first industrial job at Plessey Pacific in Melbourne around 1970.

My colleagues used to cut Rubylith and ship it off to Plessey Researh at Swindon in England to be converted into silicon. A couple of weeks later, back would come a working analogue integrated circuit. Impressive.

I can remember them being deeply envious of Bob Widlar's super-beta transistors, as used in the LM108.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

I read somewhere that the rubylith IC layout guys decided that 1 mil =

I used to make pcb power and ground planes by cutting rubylith, with x-actos for the straight stuff and dividers to score circles. I am not the slightest bit nostalgic about hand-taping PC boards; it was a huge pain.

Does anybody remember Lorry Ray?

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article.http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel3/6/13487/00619384.pdf?arnumber=619384

We can all tell, however, that you were nothing more than an overpaid stander by.

You were probably promoted beyond your level of competency then as well.

That is also probably why you are unemployable now.

The 555 is fine, and you and your reputation (not that you had one) are shit in this group, boy.

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I was doing a different job - surveying unconventional high speed printers for a miliary digital fax machine. This involved odd stuff, like predicting the failure rate of the framing system as a function of the noise level on the fax link, but no integrated circuit design.

It was more or less the same kind of work that I ended up doing throughout my career - we can't find a specialist in the area so throw in someone who looks as if he can learn it from scratch.

Guess again.

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Two propositions that only an idiot - or to give John Fields his meagre due, someone with a severe incapacity to learn about new devices - would endorse, but that's no surprise.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

One of my college jobs was as a pcb layout artist. I got pretty good at it, if I do say so myself.

First job out of college was an RF lab where (believe it or not) they forced us to use rubylith at 60 MHz. instead of black tape and donuts. Took me at LEAST 10 times longer to do the layout and nowhere NEAR as neat as with the regular stuff.

I didn't stick around too long at that place.

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I don't recall that my career ever nose-dived at any point. Transplanting myself to the Netherlands didn't help, but nobody ever complained about my technical competence.

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Mastering one field doesn't say anything about one's capacity to master another. Master several, and you probably can master several more. In 1978 and 1979 my name appeared on a couple of patents on diagnostic ultrasound. In 1984 it appears on a patent for a scheme for charged particle deflection in electron microscopy.

Dream on.

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Do try to make your claims credible. I'm not going to be bothered wasting time watching some video clip from U-tube, and if you could learn about more modern devices, you wouldn't still be fixated on the

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

article.http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel3/6/13487/00619384.pdf?arnumber=619384

Billy Slobman thinks his own thumb up his ass means that _he_ is a proctologist :-) I'm always pleased to note that I'm the highest standard for Slowman's disdain, but please don't feed the jerk. Let him die that most unpleasant of deaths... alone ;-)

-- ...Jim Thompson

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article.http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel3/6/13487/00619384.pdf?arnumber=619384

You are familiar with the phrase "broken record"? Your remarks, your jokes, you stabs at humor... virtually everything you say is as old as the hills.

It is you that is truly alone.

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And Jim-way-out-of-touch-with-reality-Thompson thinks his sense of humour deserves a wider audience.

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John Fields enjoys his little fantasies.

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Your idea of documenting an achievement is to post something on U- tube. Getting one's name on a patent is a little more difficult. It doesn't necessarily imply mastery of a field - krw has boasted about his patent here, which he wouldn't have done if he had mastered his field - but it does imply a certain measure of accomplishment.

You do have an unfortuate capacity for self-delusion. It makes you look more of nitwit than is strictly necessary.

More self-delusion.

And so would John Larkin and Tim Williams. Lets face it - your devotion to the 555 is pathological. One can only imagine that you suffered serious brain trauma shortly after the device was introduced, and lost your capacity to remember anything about any more recent device.

You claim to have used 100k ECL but I've never seen you post a word that might suggest that you are aware that a track on a printed circuit board might have a characteristic impedance, and 100k is fast enough - unlike 10k - that you do have to keep that in mind while using it.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Since you can be relied on to brown-nose Jim at every available opportunity, this will be perceived as just another example of your abject ass-licking.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

What a sick loser, Slowman! I "boasted" about my patentS (eight, BTW) because YOU specifically ASKED ME if I had and patents, implying that I did not and therefore you were somehow a superior being.

You are a liar, Slowman! I wouldn't have said anything about them if

I suppose people who haven't mastered their field have all sorts of patents in said field. What a moron, Slowman!

Ignore the asshole, John. He's like DimBulb, he thrives on abuse.

Billy Bob Slobman thrives on ATTENTION. He probably was an unwanted child. Ignore him completely and he'll go away. ...Jim Thompson