rant: filenames (2023 Update)

What do you think this is? [1]

mech_eng_jw.pdf

Or maybe

datasheet.pdf ?

And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers.

And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what they have?

And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not available in stock anywhere? That's typically european.

[1] it's a data sheet for a relay
Reply to
jlarkin
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Gaius Julius Ceasar said it already: "Forgive him, he is a barbarian who thinks the customs of his tribe are the laws of the universe."

That hasn't changed much since then...

Jeroen Belleman

Reply to
Jeroen Belleman

I just rename PDFs when I download and sort them, pretty trivial on my Macbook Pro.

I don't expect manufacturers to follow any ISO naming standards - although it would be nice...

John :-#)#

Reply to
John Robertson

Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. Bad Europeans bad.

Reply to
Dimiter_Popoff

While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. I simply put a file into a folder with the part number followed by a space, a dash and the OEM name That can be followed the same way with a brief description. This way I can select a family, hen drill down to the desired file quickly without confusion.

I agree about the datasheet archive sites that name everything datasheet.pdf They do that to keep users from downloading a lot of files, automatically. What pisses me off is how many websites that turn up in a search when they don't have any data for.

Reply to
Michael Terrell

The file can be identified by a unique name, OR, in modern usage, by a heirarchical sequence in free-form "access-method://archive.com/floor/room/bookcase/shelf/relays/model7734-0/datasheet.pdf" and since the worldwide web took over, the unique name has become rare.

Chinese pictograms are unique names, and that's a DREADFUL system (errors of translation, and of pronunciation, are endemic) for most uses. On the other hand, I once perused a dictionary translation of 'Milky Way' into Tigrigna, that took a paragraph (of Ethiopic script) so the long-descriptive-name also has issues.

Since Chinese symbols aren't pronounceable, lots of things get nearly-accurate names; pin jacks and pin plugs, for instance, are '2mm banana jack' and '2mm banana plug' on Aliexpress. Hey, something with similar function was 'banana'! That's a valuable search term!

Reply to
whit3rd

How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ?

Reply to
John Larkin

Hah, looks like it has not been that long since they acquired NSC :-).

Let us see which system will prevail, may be one day I will not have to rename their pdfs. The first one I found in my archive which I have not renamed turned out to be en errata sheet for the 5420 DSP. Filename is sprz190b.pdf ....

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Dimiter_Popoff

Socialist habits of everybody having a useless job shuffling unneccessary papers and adhering to dated, rigid processes, lack of creativity, no gains from improving processes, shitty software for managing documentation.

Sounds like german engineering- why use two parts when you can use three?

Highly incomplete datasheets that are full of cruft annoy me. Had make phone calls to see how long the leads are that are potted into a sensor.

2.5meters, apparently. That seems like a big detail to forget to include.
Reply to
Cydrome Leader

One recent datasheet has footnote superscripts on several of the specs... but no corresponding footnotes.

LoL means Lots of Luck.

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John Larkin

On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and then add __number.pdf That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject.

w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf

# locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf

No database needed # locate -i shelter | grep -i stones /mnt/sda3/audio/other/rolling_stones/The_Rolling_Stones-Gimme_Shelter.mp3

etc

Reply to
Jan Panteltje

This is the perfect example of why companies and people get hacked so easily. Can anyone spot the issue?

Reply to
Cydrome Leader

rm /var/cache/locate/locatedb

then try again.

Reply to
Jasen Betts

If it works for you, use it. I simply described my method. I'm currently building an index for all the PDF files I have for test equipment. They are sorted by brand, then model number but some cover more than one model so the HTML base index lets me find what I want with a couple clicks. I can describe the item in detail. on the index pages.

I have 34,293 files in 4,030 folders (186 GB) of manuals HP/Agilent/Keysight has 6,183 files by itself.

I have 5,866 datasheets, in 733 folders (3.80 GB), so that needs work as well. I save every PDF or other document that I find for future use. Sometimes it takes hours to locate something online when it is misnamed or misspelled, so why do it again? BTW,

formatting link
has scans of a lot of old databooks that you can download for free. They are also in the process of scanning and processing all the manuals from Manuals Plus.

Reply to
Michael Terrell

On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 07:57:34 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cydrome Leader snipped-for-privacy@MUNGEpanix.com wrote in <smd9le$m7r$ snipped-for-privacy@reader1.panix.com>:

No idea, been root on all my puters since 1998, only data I ever lost was when I dropped a harddisk In the early days ran the servers (http ftp) at home, hundreds attacks every day, none succeeded. Have a large iptables file... Now the server is at godaddy, happy they do the checking. And everything here is backed up anyways. It is hard to hack a 3TB disk when it is off.

companies and people get hacked because in 3 weeks you can become a sysadm and web developer by following an online course.

I remember in the old days asking what was it 'Hacktic' or something like that to attack my server to see if they could get in I watched them trying.. No go.

OTOH I know Big Brothel is of course in full control of every thing I do, google tells them everything I searched for, banks and paypal tells them everything I bought online, and governments can take with one law everything you have away. and you fear HACKERS??? LOL

Reply to
Jan Panteltje

I tend to get pretty floral about parts that aren't super familiar. For instance, I have an op amp datasheet named

OPA818decomp2.7GHzGBW_2.2nVnoiseFETinput2pfCin1400VusSevenBucks.pdf.

Makes it a breeze trawling through my ~/electronics/datasheets/ directory tree looking for stuff.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Reply to
Phil Hobbs

I want TI to use it.

Once we officially put a part in stock, it gets its own PDATA folder, with data sheets, pictures, app notes, our measurements, whatever we know.

Reply to
jlarkin

But you're one of those people who know how to type.

Reply to
jlarkin

No idea at all? How about knowing someting is bad and doing it anyways?

Experian or capital one might be hiring, they'd like your type.

Reply to
Cydrome Leader

colonial pipeline might be looking for some new "talent" too.

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Cydrome Leader

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