Print color PDF on monochrome laser?

Tried it, found no check box. Maybe they really blew it and I need to install an older copy (thanks for the info, Mike!). This would have the advantage of Acrobat Reader crashing less because older software is of better quality than newer versions. Downside is that it won't display the oversophisticated pages some sites absolutely have to have.

Acrobat Reader is (by far) the software with the most hard crashes, on any of my computers.

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Yep, looks like that needs to be done. I wonder if I can have two versions on my PC. An old one for real work and a newer one for sites with excessive fluff.

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I seem to recall certain versions of Protel used yellow lines as default. Aieee!

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Joel Koltner

If that doesn't work, I have just had a very good experience with Ghostscript. If you're willing to spelunk a bit as to how to make it work, you may be able to convert a pdf-with-color into a pdf-with-B&W.

(Ghostscript's versatility is scary; you can make it do _anything_, which means that you basically have to write a little script to get it to do what you want).

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I run V9 reader and V6.0.6 'writer' under Windows 2000. I can't recall the install order that works (one order works, the other doesn't!) but *I think* it's old version then new version.

V9 then handles the browser plugin and I get an 'open with Adobe Reader 9' and an 'open' when right clicking on the file name in windows explorer.

'open' will open the file in v6 writer IF v9 reader isn't already running.

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Mike

Are you changing that setting from the control panel, while logged in as the administrator? If not, doing so may fix the problem. Oh, & don't use the HP-supplied drivers, use the generic ones that come with Windows.

That's nothing - Adobe CS3 comes on 5 (IIRC) CDROMs.

I use an elderly, monochrome laser running PostScript, & get perfect printouts every time. ;^)

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Bob Larter

Ditto. And if you let it hook into your web-browser, it'll lock up the whole thing if it crashes while looking at a PDF on a website.

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Bob Larter

Yep, That's one way to get around the problem, because you can then use Windows PostScript driver.

I once had a job where I had to support PostScript printers, & I ended up writing lots of PostScript code to various things, & to fix bugs, sometimes. PostScript is a very powerful language, based on FORTH.

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Bob Larter

But who uses Protel? ;^)

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PS based on FORTH?? Is PS a stack based language?

1) there are other stack based languages. 2) i am slightly acquainted with FORTH but cannot imagine using it to write PostScript.

How about some backup for the assertion?

Just for fun where do i get a free copy of the PostScript language specification? ??

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JosephKK

Yes.

If you have GhostScript installed:

GS>2 3 add 4 mul = 20

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Nobody

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The problem lies with the printer, or the CAD program, not Adobe.

My hp LaserJet P2015dn prints colored PDF's as grayscale, unless I check-box "Print Color as Black", which is fine for line drawings, but not data sheets with a colored banner, for instance.

My wife's K850 (11"x17" two-sided inkjet) has check boxes "Print in "Grayscale" and "Print in Sepia", and "Print Text as Black"

PSpice Schematics has a "Monochrome" checkbox, which I don't use. Schematics should be B/W, period! So I changed all elements to black in the setup. The only color I ever see on-screen is a selection shows as red.

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I=20

FORTH.

Thank you very much. It surprised me that Adobe would publish it for free like that. Or maybe they are not do dumb after all, remember Adobe type manager? ??

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JosephKK

dunno about that. I was under the impression that postscript was interpreted while forth is compiled.

yes. definately

The syntax seems similar but I am not greatly fimilar with either.

google found this:

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not what you asked for but may be interesting:

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Jasen Betts

Yep. Read the doc's & see for yourself.

True, although they're fairly rare.

PostScript is just FORTH with floating point & graphics. Other than that, they're identical. If you're familiar with FORTH, all the the same tools work with PS.

Sure:

Sure. You can get a copy of the Blue Book here:

If you you want any other references, you should be able to get them from the Wikipedia page. If you can't find them, just post, & I'll be happy to dig up the URLs for you.

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Bob Larter

PS used to be very proprietary, but they've opened things up over the years.

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No, FORTH is interpreted.

The big difference is that PS has floating-point & graphics built in.

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A PostScript printer would be useless if no-one knew how to create files which it would accept. Originally, this meant buying the "red book", but even that was only the price of a comparable textbook, not the megabucks (well, kilobucks) charged for IEEE/ANSI/ISO/etc standards.

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years.

My biggest problem is with IEEE. Then again they are an order of magnitude higher priced for the same quality and coverage as ANSI or ISO.

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JosephKK

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pdf-with-B&W.

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FORTH.

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How about an equivalent to the BlueBook for Forth?

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