Given how frequently people access WWW, I wonder if they weren't trying to come up with a mapping of "PC identifiers" to *addresses*? (stay in an area long enough to get a few WWW accesses and you can now map their PC and IP to "somewhere in this block!")
Agreed. Amazing that people can't figure out how to set the time on their VCR (even more amazing that the VCR can't set it itself -- or, at least *remember* it!!)
OTOH, it may be a tactic for HR types to raid competitors.
Yeah, I think about this any time I am at an airport, etc.
"Hmmm... these (faceless) people now will have unrestricted access to a connector on my machine. Do I think they are benevolent? Why are they *giving* this service away??"
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All kinds of dirty tricks can result from an act like that. ;-)
-- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
Carry your real data on a DVD or USB stick, then fill the hard drive with out of date designs, and fraudulent data. ;-)
-- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
That's very interesting about a legal requirements to make a shutter sound with a cell phone. I hadn't ever considered that, but I can understand why such a requirement might appeal to some. That said, ATM cameras, and any number of security and other cameras make no sounds, and are presumably just as big a "threat" to privacy. Camcorders are silent too, for that matter.
I have some friends in that industry. Being an avid photographer myself (but NEVER with a crappy phone camera!), I'll ask around. If you know the exact regs, I'd love to read 'em!
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Wasn't Google collecting this data in the past, over the course of several years? I mean, they didn't do all that Street View driving at once.
Google has recently gotten into the mobile phone fray. Perhaps the original intent was just to do some basic marketing - to test the waters about whether wireless telecom was a good sector to muscle their way in to?
Also, how much data was it? I though I read 600GB? Is that right? If so, that's 600GB spread across 30 countries, and several years... With a Street View vehicle at 30 mph outside the house, best case. I'm not exactly worried.
I would actually be more inclined to worry about the Bush-era illegal wiretaps, or my ISP eavsdropping for that matter! Sometimes, folks will equate anything "big" with "bad". And it doesn't get much bigger than Google.
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Unless your ATM use cases are significantly different from those familiar to me, I doubt you have ever taken an picture up someone's skirt (kilt?) with an ATM camera. The reason for the law is to prevent surreptitious locker room and similar pictures being taken. The Netherlands is one such jurisdiction. Japan's law says something like "cameras that don't look like cameras must make a shutter sound" too.
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This is precious! Proteus calling someone else the laughing stock!
I recall hearing something about Google's Street View having to re- image Japan (Germany, maybe?, I forget exactly), because the cameras on their vehicles were mounted too high and could see over people's fences. IIRC, Google agreed to lower the cameras and re-image the countryside...
I'm not disagreeing with you, BTW. And I wouldn't be surprised to see an ordinance about mandatory shutter sounds on cell phone cameras and similar devices. (Actually, I think I would be surprised to see such a law in the United States!)
More likely, I would think manufacturer's put those camera-emulating sounds in as a way to provide user feedback, in an effort so stem the tide of warranty returns and/or consumers inquires relating to camera use. This, since most people don't read and/or understand instruction manuals anymore. But make it sound like a camera, and people don't need to read instructions.
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A quick Google search seems to confirm what I thought - In the US, there is no federal law that requires cell phone cameras to make an audible sound when snapping pictures.
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A bill was introduced last year, but it has not made it out of committee.
Of course, as a practical matter, manufacturers of camera-equipped cell phones may not be motivated to turn off that "feature" for US markets when they are still required for other markets. Besides the obvious inventory problems that would create, most consumers probably appreciate the feature anyway.
And of course, H.R.414 misses the mark anyway. The US is so hung up on anything sexual as it is, I wonder if the bill's sponsors think the legislation would do anything about teen "sexting".?
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Well, it was DimBulb.
You are only about two years behind the curve, lame dumbfuck.
Update: Apparently, you can disable the shutter click sound on the iPhone (US). This according to an engineer friend who works for AT&T. I don't have an iPhone myself, so I can't independently confirm or deny.
I have Sprint, and I'm very please to say, my handset DOES NOT have a camera in it! I think that would drive me crazy! I much prefer my Nikon.
A Google image search of a Steet View car shows a lot of instruments on top of the vehicle cluster. I wonder what else they're collecting?
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If that link doesn't work, just Google Image search for one of the cars.
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Another update:
Google Street View vs. Bambi Not sure if this is Photoshopped-faked or what, but it's funny as hell...
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I heard that in the case where ACORN got recorded with audio in some states that prohibited audio recording, there were lots of attorneys ready and willing to argue that ACORN people caught in the act had no reasonable expectation of privacy.
In the case of citizens recording government agents in the performance of their duties there seems to be caselaw supporting BOTH sides.
My personal view is that government actors should ONLY have privacy when they are in the restroom or otherwise off-duty.
Prosecutors should have NO descretion when it comes to government actors who commit perjury, either.
Of course. The US does not have legislation on the subject.
The best camera in the world is the one you have with you. The iPhone
3GS camera is as good as the point and shoots of a few years ago, and it's connected - take a photo at t=3D0, share it with the world at t=3D+1 sec. I almost never carry a separate camera these days. The market for low-end point and shootsI don't need extra crap to carry - I want a phone (well, not so much for voice, just for SMS), an email device, a web browser, an MP3 player and a camera on me at all times and I want it all in one device.
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