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?A Mercedes SL Roadster should exude style," Berk says. "This one looks like it was styled by an extruder.?

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I think when it came to ugly this one took the cake:

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I'd be more than happy to take any unwanted ones off your hands..

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How about those old Citroen's you drove ?:-) ...Jim Thompson

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How to make it less ugly:-

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Those were called the "Ugly Duckling" in Germany. They were technically very advanced and practical. You could transport a huge upright fridge/freezer combo in there. I did, while the guy with his fancy VW bus could not. Seats came out in seconds, so we did a lot of card games on plugged freeways while seated very comfortably on the road. The trunk lid could be fastened flat and horizontally, making for a nice table around which we sat. Try that with your Infinity. And so on. Ok, the eraly ones looked a bit ugly:

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But they could also look very stylish:

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Yet none of those cars manages to get even close to the uglyness of the Fiat Multipla:

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When I sold my piano I almost gave the guy who bought it his money back when I noticed he came to pick it up with a Fiat Multipla!

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A piano? In this car? Did the suspension go kerklunck .. sproinggg when you loaded it in? We gave away our piano and the only way to transport it was a small moving van, plus four strong guys. It weighs about half a ton.

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They'll be in their 80's now :-)

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My Infiniti has an automatic parking procedure... stops at all the best restaurants and hotels >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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It might have been an electric piano. My first - a Roland 800 - was light enough for me to pick and carry around on my own. The current model - a Roland HP330e - is heavier, but I picked it up from the shop in my Nissan Primera waggon, and my wife and I were able to move it into the house without help.

Electric piano's need better key-boards than you can now buy. A linear motor per key would do it. Brent Gillespie has published a couple of papers on the subject, but his one working test piece used linear motors salvaged from old disk drives, which were too wide for the 12mm spacing of a regular piano keyboard (average width is closer 14mm but they aren't evenly spaced). I'm fairly sure that I could do better. but lack the heroic level of enthusiasm that would be needed by anybody who would try.

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My piano was an electric piano. Still about 70kg (approx 140 pounds) but I can manage that on my own with a trolley. I still want to buy a more portable piano and learn to play it properly but it seems to be a bucket-list project.

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70kg? Wow. Watch the disks in your lower back. Once they become "floppy disks" it's too late.
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May I recommend that you move your piano playing up the priority list. I've been doing battle with various keyboards most of my life. I play badly, but it's also what keeps me sane. If I were immersed over my head in work, technology, politics, personalities, usenet, and such, I would go insane. Banging on the piano for 30-60 minutes per day lets me temporarily disconnect from reality, which is what keeps me going. When I really want to get lost, one of my customers has a seriously expensive new Steinway grand.

Unedited 10 year old keyboard improvisations (yes, I know they suck).

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I'm not a big fan of the "electric piano". The idea is to supply 88 keys, that act as close to a real piano keyboard action as possible, and generate as many sounds as can be economically crammed into the synthesizer. The results are not to my liking. I constantly switch between the heavy mechanical piano action and the much lighter action on my Korg DSS-1. I can play almost 50% faster on the Korg as on a real piano. I does take me about 2-5 minutes of warmup to switch keyboards, but by now, it's become a trivial exercise (if you ignore the initial fumbling).

Therefore, I suggest you find a keyboard action that feels comfortable, which means that you could play for hours without fatigue. Never mind the built in sounds. Then, purchase a sampler or MIDI synthesizer that makes the right sounds and an effects generator to make them sound real, weird, or whatever. Trying to find perfection in one box is difficult if not impossible. Never mind a keyboard "workstation" as a Mac or PC will do a better job of editing. I use a Roland MT-32 synth and Digitech TSR-24 effects generator, but I don't recommend either. They're both 20+ years old and there are better boxes available today.

Good playing...

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As in a Rhodes or a Wurlitzer? With tines?

They're fairly easy to come by, really, so I presume the bucket list part is "play it properly".

M-Audio makes a lot of really lightweight kyeboards, and you can find lots of rackmount ROMpler sound generators on the used market. I have and prefer Alesis, but there are lots of them.

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IMHO the real problem with electric piano keyboards is that the measure speed with which you depress the key by measuring the interval between two switch closures.

You never know where the switches actually are in the key travel, and there's no guarantee that they will be in the same place from one key to the next.

On a real piano, the speed that matters is how fast the key is going down when the key loses contract with the hammer action. and you seem to be able to feel (and possibly hear) when this happens, giving you much better control over the amplitude of the sound you produce, and precisely when this happens (which is controlled to about 10msec by real pianists playing real pianos (as documented by Caroline Palmer, amongst others).

Putting a linear motor under the key would give you more or less continuous monitoring of the key speed, and would allow you to inject a kick into the key action to signify when the simulated hammer was out of contact with the key and flying off to hit the simulated string.

I never had any trouble switching between my Roland HP330e and my piano teacher's second hand German Steinway (which had cost her ten times as much as I'd paid for my machine), and always played better on the real piano.

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Wow - I'm amazed an engineering team would even building something like tha t! The first thing that comes to mind is having BOTH exit doors blocked as a r esult of a rear end collision: either one caused by tailgating that pushes the car into the obstacle ahead, or one caused by pile-up. What were they thinking?

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result of a rear end collision:  either one caused by tailgating that pu shes the car into the obstacle ahead, or one caused by pile-up.  What wer e they thinking?

that was before safety was a big concern, remember Topgear making a joke of the Isetta it only has a door at the front so if you park close to something you cannot get out and it has no reverse gear so you are stuck

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No. IIRC it was a Kurzweil. It was so heavy because it had a very complex speaker system. It had 6 or 8 speakers.

The latter is the 'problem' indeed. My parents send me to music school when I was a kid. In the end I choose to play the drums. That choice is one of the very few things I regret.

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1950's ... safety ... two different things. Imagine a rollover in one of these:

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