OT. EVs with two wheels

Article written in September of 2019 Price range from $13,000 to $117,000

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Range on one charge is 83 miles up to 270 miles for the expensive one. This is what Harley Davidson says about their version, the Livewire. "Use the onboard Level 1 charger and power cord to connect to any standard household outlet and get a full charge overnight. For a faster charge, visit any public Level 3 DC Fast Charge station for 80% charge in 40 minutes or 100% charge in an hour." $29,800 with a range of 95 miles to 146 miles according to HD. I wouldn't think anything of riding a couple hundred miles one way to snoop through the Nebraska Sandhills in a day. I think I've ridden my motorcycles from my home in Nebraska the 500 miles to St. Louis. I've driven that distance quite a few times in a day.

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Dean Hoffman
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There is something not right about the charging numbers. Are you sure they didn't say level 2 rather than level 3? If the bike only has a range of 1

40 miles, that should be a pretty small battery. But then the DC fast char ging is around 10x the rate of level 2, so maybe that's right. I thinking of charging my 100 kWh battery in an hour, but just because you have a smal ler battery doesn't mean it can charge faster. Cells don't like being char ged much faster than a given rate, period. So it will take new technology to get the charging time much lower than an hour for a full charge. The go od news is you hardly ever need a full charge even on trips. The charge ra te is a lot faster if you only charge to 60% or so and stop a bit more ofte n. That's not hard to do on a bike.

Give it all a few more years with even slightly better batteries and I thin k the EV landscape will be rather different.

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  Rick C. 

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Ricketty C

Electric motorcycles won't be popular. They are not noisy enough.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

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jlarkin

I copied and pasted the part about the charging. HD does mention level 2 charging at another place. It says level 2 would be at the same rate as level 1. The battery is a 15.5 kWh. The sneaky characters offer free charging at participating dealers. Those dealers happen to sell other HD stuff and what's one supposed to do while waiting for the bike to charge.

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Dean Hoffman

I'm not sure, but probably. Being in such a powerful vehicle that makes ne arly no sound is an amazing thing. It is truly like something from the fut ure. But most motor cycle owners do like the noise. That doesn't mean tho se who were previously turned off by the noise won't be interested.

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  Rick C. 

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Ricketty C

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